Akater:
…what I'm saying is: Tor could be much more than just a proxy tool, it
could be a public campaign—with all the “dirty work” your generic
public campaign has. (Well, it's not /that/ dirty, actually; it's funny
once you get involved.) Activism, PR, fundraising, education, etc. The
The only solution would be recommending people to run exit nodes from
home.
Actually I wonder why tor users seem to be convinced it's a bad idea.
I used to think this IS the point of Tor. If you run exit node from
Yes.
Finding out that websites do not work is great.
Finding out that
Today I discovered that wiki.debian.org blocks Tor exit nodes. There are
many other sites doing the same thing, and this is an increasing trend
among website admins.
If this trend continues, Tor will sooner or later become close to useless
for regular clearnet surfing. And we'll be left with
hi...@safe-mail.net wrote (10 Nov 2013 18:37:10 GMT) :
Today I discovered that wiki.debian.org blocks Tor exit nodes.
It blocks *some* exit nodes, not all. E.g. it works for me right now.
Data point: I had the exit nodes removed from the blacklist (via
private follow-ups to
The only solution would be recommending people to run exit nodes from home.
Actually I wonder why tor users seem to be convinced it's a bad idea. I
used to think this IS the point of Tor. If you run exit node from home then
nobody can prove that any particular activity was from you and not some
On 11/10/2013 3:12 PM, Akater wrote:
The only solution would be recommending people to run exit nodes from home.
Actually I wonder why tor users seem to be convinced it's a bad idea. I
used to think this IS the point of Tor. If you run exit node from home then
nobody can prove that any
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 8:37 PM, hi...@safe-mail.net wrote:
Today I discovered that wiki.debian.org blocks Tor exit nodes. There are
many other sites doing the same thing, and this is an increasing trend
among website admins.
Not sure if they block all exit nodes (if any). I just
On 11/10/2013 2:12 PM, Akater wrote:
Actually I wonder why tor users seem to be convinced it's a bad idea Am I
missing something?
Yes, from what I've seen reported several times on this list, you're
missing that even being approached or brought in for questioning by
LEAs, threatened by
The German guy was released, right? A couple more precendents, and
police will stop raids like this one due to inefficiency. Because,
ultimately, they /are/ inefficient, and all Tor community needs to do is
to make it as clear to general public as possible.
It's difficult to predict how such a
I have, now and then, run exits from home. In each case, a week or so after,
I'd get a letter from my ISP about a copyright violation (someone downloaded a
pirated movie or music). I'm glad it was just that and not cops blowing in on a
pedophile investigation for downloads of child porn. That
…what I'm saying is: Tor could be much more than just a proxy tool, it
could be a public campaign—with all the “dirty work” your generic
public campaign has. (Well, it's not /that/ dirty, actually; it's funny
once you get involved.) Activism, PR, fundraising, education, etc. The
only reason
On 11/10/2013 02:14 PM, Akater wrote:
SNIP
Again, I don't understand what's the purpose of Tor if you pretend you
don't use it. ...
SNIP
Seriously?
The point is being more anonymous!
If there's a site that you need to access, and that site blocks enough
Tor exit nodes to make access
On 11/10/2013 3:14 PM, Akater wrote:
The German guy was released, right? A couple more precendents, and
police will stop raids like this one due to inefficiency. Because,
ultimately, they /are/ inefficient, and all Tor community needs to do is
to make it as clear to general public as possible.
Any VPN provider will sell you out if big brother tells it to.
The structure of Tor perfectly reflects the ultimate inherent freedom of
Internet: if users act properly, one can't control Internet without
turning himself into an omniscient dictator. Hence, using Tor as a mere
proxy tool is
Akater:
I don't even understand who will see
this message
Everyone signed up on this mailing list, everyone reading the archive
over web and those who find results from this mailing list on search
engines.
and how to provide a discussion link for outsider.
Go to the mailing list archive and
And, criminals do use Tor, at times.
Criminals do use guns at times. Does it mean gov't can harrass you if
you own one, too? What about cash? Criminals like cash because it's
anonymous. Should we ban cash transactions that exceed certain limit?
Who will set the limit? The same guys who can print
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 13:37:10 -0500
hi...@safe-mail.net wrote:
Today I discovered that wiki.debian.org blocks Tor exit nodes. There
are many other sites doing the same thing, and this is an increasing
trend among website admins.
If this trend continues, Tor will sooner or later become close
--On Monday, November 11, 2013 2:44 AM +0400 Akater
nuclearsp...@gmail.com wrote:
Any VPN provider will sell you out if big brother tells it to.
The structure of Tor perfectly reflects the ultimate inherent freedom of
Internet: if users act properly, one can't control Internet without
On 11/10/2013 4:53 PM, Akater wrote:
And, criminals do use Tor, at times.
Criminals do use guns at times. Does it mean gov't can harrass you if
you own one, too?
They can do harass anyone, for anything, that they want to. They know
how far they can take it (sometimes, that's PRETTY far).
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On 11.11.2013 06:48, krishna e Bera wrote:
As someone else pointed out, the most likely consequence of home
exit nodes is DMCA complaints leading to cutoff of your home
internet connection. Many (most?) ISPs don't even allow running
servers.
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