Hi everyone,
Over the past few weeks, I've talked with a number of Tor people about how
the project is portrayed in the media. As a reporter on this beat, the many
legitimate criticisms the community have had strike pretty close to home
for me. I don't think I need to tell this list why Tor's port
Hey Patrick,
Most newspapers have a taste for the salacious, and the DailyDot is not exempt
from that criticism. People buy drugs online (which is incredibly stupid for
several reasons), but that is in no way the largest use case for hidden
services. Not even close. It sells papers (and their d
Thanks for the suggestions Griffin (and everyone else who has emailed me),
I really appreciate it! I'll be taking your advice and reaching out to the
people you've mentioned.
As to the complaints, since they take up a good chunk of your email: I
don't take me or my employer to be exempt from any p
as I've asked before, I would appreciate any metrics, stats, or other data
that can back up claims of this sort, as well as means by which reporters
and researchers can assess them. I am thinking traffic in volume, not
number of applications (not numbers of newspapers, number of drug-based
sites, e
On 2014-10-01 17:40, Patrick wrote:
Hi everyone,
Over the past few weeks, I've talked with a number of Tor people about how
the project is portrayed in the media. As a reporter on this beat, the many
legitimate criticisms the community have had strike pretty close to home
for me. I don't think I
On 2014-10-02 14:15, z9wahqvh wrote:
as I've asked before, I would appreciate any metrics, stats, or other data
that can back up claims of this sort, as well as means by which reporters
and researchers can assess them.
Luckily, we have DARPA working to find out these metrics and stats, see
htt
hey guys how can i communicate with mr S on here to discuss a possible
movie deal in the coming years
Greg Curcio
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Lewman wrote:
> On 2014-10-02 14:15, z9wahqvh wrote:
>
>> as I've asked before, I would appreciate any metrics, stats, or other data
>> that
that's a funny dismissive response, but I think it is a very serious
question, and that it is taken seriously is reflected in no place more
strongly than when people on this list suggest that they know Tor is mostly
used for "good" purposes and that that is (implicitly or explicitly) why
they use o
On 10/02/2014 01:24 PM, z9wahqvh wrote:
> that's a funny dismissive response, but I think it is a very serious
> question, and that it is taken seriously is reflected in no place more
> strongly than when people on this list suggest that they know Tor is mostly
> used for "good" purposes and that t
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/02/2014 01:24 PM, z9wahqvh wrote:
>
>
> Even if (for argument's sake) 99% of Tor users/uses were unqualifiedly
> evil, that would say nothing about Tor. At most, it would speak to its
> relatively slow uptake overall, and perhaps to the preva
Torizens, this is a concern troll: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%
28Internet%29#Concern_troll
They have repeatedly said they "support Tor" and "want to be wrong,
but..." and then spread poison.
List administrators, you have dedicated significant resources towards
stopping censorship, and I
On 10/02/2014 04:35 PM, z9wahqvh wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Mirimir wrote:
>
>> On 10/02/2014 01:24 PM, z9wahqvh wrote:
>>
>>
>> Even if (for argument's sake) 99% of Tor users/uses were unqualifiedly
>> evil, that would say nothing about Tor. At most, it would speak to its
>> relati
i think roger dingledine presented some short timeline evidence awhile back in
a video i saw but this is from memory.
a US university and the DoJ usa tallied tor traffic on their relay and only
found something like 3% "unwanted" traffic.
that could have included things like copyrighted music s
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Ted Smith wrote:
> List administrators, you have dedicated significant resources towards
> stopping censorship, and I understand that you don't want to use the
> banhammer lightly, but any unkempt garden inevitably becomes a bed of
> weeds, and this is something yo
thank you, this is exactly the sort of thing I was looking for. I'll see if
I can find it in one of Roger's videos, though if anyone has a specific
pointer that would be very much appreciated.
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:57 PM, stn wrote:
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> i think roger dingledine presented some short timeline e
I would be happy to stalk users of my relay for a while if anyone is willing to
help me set it up. It would have to be a short time period and the logs
would have to be shredded afterwards for privacy reasons, but if we want actual
data, this seems to be the best way to do it. There are some stro
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On 03/10/2014 13:59, Derric Atzrott wrote:
> I would be happy to stalk users of my relay for a while if anyone
> is willing to help me set it up
That's worrying.
There are some strong ethical
> questions in logging all traffic from a relay, but I can
well, I was going to say thank you, and I will, but I can certainly
understand the issues raised below.
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> On 03/10/2014 13:59, Derric Atzrott wrote:
> > I would be happy to stalk users of my r
Derric Atzrott:
> There are some strong ethical questions in logging all traffic from a
> relay, but I can't see any other way to get this sort of data.
The answer to the ethical question is simple: this is plain wrong. You
don't spy on people.
But there's also a legal aspect to it: in many juris
Well, this thread went nowhere fast. Sorry guys! And thanks to people who
emailed me. Cheers.
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Lunar wrote:
> Derric Atzrott:
> > There are some strong ethical questions in logging all traffic from a
> > relay, but I can't see any other way to get this sort of data
i wish i could recall which talk it was. i've watched so many without taking
notes recently as a quick study aid.
sorry about that.
On Oct 3, 2014, at 8:48 AM, z9wahqvh wrote:
> thank you, this is exactly the sort of thing I was looking for. I'll see if
> I can find it in one of Roger's v
Through Glenn Greenwald
> hey guys how can i communicate with mr S on here to discuss a possible
> movie deal in the coming years
>
> Greg Curcio
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On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:22 PM, I wrote:
> Through Glenn Greenwald
>
> > hey guys how can i communicate with mr S on here to discuss a possible
> > movie deal in the coming years
> >
> > Greg Curcio
>
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