Re: [tor-talk] What relay does really help the TOR project?

2015-01-17 Thread grarpamp
The past days I made some short tcpdump traces to find out what people use TOR for. Well, it's kind of sad. A short analyse of the hostnames gave me the result: It's hard to abstract a top 10 list of hostnames seen into the concept of discrete users, especially over shared medium like an exit

Re: [tor-talk] What relay does really help the TOR project?

2015-01-17 Thread Thomas White
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 One more point to note, please do not log or try to search for what users are using your exit for. I run a lot of exits myself and I know when starting out you can get curious, but it is a slippery road. If you keep logs on the exit server of user

[tor-talk] What relay does really help the TOR project?

2015-01-16 Thread Josef 'veloc1ty' Stautner
Hello List, I first heard from TOR after the leaks of snowden and started to read a lot about TOR but never used it - and I still don't use it (I just don't have the need for it). Before christmas I started a tor relay on my dedicated server. To be clear: Just a normal middle relay with 100

Re: [tor-talk] What relay does really help the TOR project?

2015-01-16 Thread Chris Dagdigian
With that philosophy of yours maybe you'd be better off running an unlisted bridge (bridge relay) ? Those seem aimed squarely at helping people evade government censorship and national firewalls. May be more close to the type of service you'd like to be providing ? Josef 'veloc1ty'

Re: [tor-talk] What relay does really help the TOR project?

2015-01-16 Thread Josef 'veloc1ty' Stautner
Hello Chris, apart from that I'm also running a bridge on a different IP. The point is really the relay. ~Josef Am 16.01.2015 um 21:54 schrieb Chris Dagdigian: With that philosophy of yours maybe you'd be better off running an unlisted bridge (bridge relay) ? Those seem aimed squarely at

Re: [tor-talk] What relay does really help the TOR project?

2015-01-16 Thread Tom van der Woerdt
Hi Josef, Exit nodes provide most value to the network, as they will also be able to handle entry and middle traffic. As for porn: maybe the wiki page on porn legality [1] explains it. Also note that this kind of traffic helps to mask other kinds of Tor traffic, essentially helping the

Re: [tor-talk] What relay does really help the TOR project?

2015-01-16 Thread Dave Warren
On 2015-01-16 12:40, Josef 'veloc1ty' Stautner wrote: The past days I made some short tcpdump traces to find out what people use TOR for. Well, it's kind of sad. A short analyse of the hostnames gave me the result: 80% Porn, 10% site crawling, 5% Wordpress comment spam and 5% human traffic. I

Re: [tor-talk] What relay does really help the TOR project?

2015-01-16 Thread l.m
Josef 'veloc1ty' Stautner wrote:Long story short: What type of relay helps the TOR project more? Exit-Relay or Middle-relay? Is it really the job from TOR to provide an exit to the normal internet resources or should the focus be on hidden services? First, thank you for operating a Tor node.

Re: [tor-talk] What relay does really help the TOR project?

2015-01-16 Thread Mirimir
On 01/16/2015 02:00 PM, Tom van der Woerdt wrote: Hi Josef, Exit nodes provide most value to the network, as they will also be able to handle entry and middle traffic. As for porn: maybe the wiki page on porn legality [1] explains it. Also note that this kind of traffic helps to mask