Re: What is Torque?

2010-03-15 Thread Ivano Luberti
Il 15/03/2010 9.01, Thomas Fischer ha scritto: > If you want to come up with a suggestion, please go ahead > >Thomas > This is only a draft and made in plain text. To have a real presentation of Torque structured like this the items in the Characteristics section should be expanded by p

Re: What is Torque?

2010-03-15 Thread Thomas Fischer
If you want to come up with a suggestion, please go ahead Thomas > I think we should take advantage of the fact we are writing an hypeterxt. > We should have an elevator pitch and use links in his keywords to > forward the reader to techinical explanation. > Even better to forward the reader to

RE: What is Torque?

2010-03-15 Thread Thomas Fischer
+1, very nice. Do you want to replace the current text on the 3.3 and 4.0 website with it ? The 4.0 site deployment description at http://db.apache.org/torque/releases/torque-4.0/developer-info/site-edit-deploy.html should be up do date. Thomas > OK, this isn't an elevator pitch anymore...

Re: What is Torque?

2010-03-14 Thread Thomas Vandahl
On 12.03.10 00:13, Greg Monroe wrote: > Some of Torque's key features are: [...] +1 I like this statement. Bye, Thomas. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: torque-dev-unsubscr...@db.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: torque-dev-h

Re: What is Torque?

2010-03-12 Thread Ivano Luberti
I think we should take advantage of the fact we are writing an hypeterxt. We should have an elevator pitch and use links in his keywords to forward the reader to techinical explanation. Even better to forward the reader to a FAQ dedicated to this kind of matters. In this way we have a short elevato

RE: What is Torque?

2010-03-11 Thread Greg Monroe
OK, this isn't an elevator pitch anymore... but valuable description text. FYI - I debated using Object-Relational mapper... but at work our "pitches" try to avoid concepts that need a lot of explanation to non-techies. should have considered the audience here...lol Anyway, here's a version that

RE: What is Torque?

2010-03-10 Thread Ludwig Magnusson
graphical interface. /Ludwig -Original Message- From: Thomas Vandahl [mailto:t...@apache.org] Sent: den 10 mars 2010 19:41 To: Apache Torque Developers List Subject: Re: What is Torque? Ludwig Magnusson wrote: > Otherwise I don't really like the word simple. Too many projects

Re: What is Torque?

2010-03-10 Thread Thomas Vandahl
Ludwig Magnusson wrote: > Otherwise I don't really like the word simple. Too many projects use this > word to describe them, from small libraries to extensive frameworks that > rarely are simple to understand. Torque *is* simple, trust me. Almost everything else is much more complicated. Bye, Th

Re: What is Torque?

2010-03-10 Thread Thomas Vandahl
Ivano Luberti wrote: > It would be also great to have a (of course biased) comparison matrix. > Do you know of a good comparison matrix of ORM tools? Henning presented an overview on Apache O/R-mappers at ApacheCon EU 2006 in Dublin. The script is at http://henning.schmiedehausen.org/or-mappers/Ap

Re: What is Torque?

2010-03-10 Thread Ivano Luberti
I second the fact that the term Object Relational Mapper should appear mainylfor SEO reasons. I disagree in part on the advantages/disatvantages considertations. I think that we should have a separate section (Why Torque?) with the items listed down here. It would be also great to have a (of course

RE: What is Torque?

2010-03-10 Thread Ludwig Magnusson
opers List Subject: RE: What is Torque? In my opinion, the text above is quite good already. However, my personal focus would be more on what distinguishes Torque from other OR mappers. - extensible (hooks are provided for custom behavioor, e.g. modifying the templates, change behaviour of gene

RE: What is Torque?

2010-03-10 Thread Thomas Fischer
> I think Torque would benefit from us defining such a statement to > help frame what Torque > 4.0 is working towards. > > That said, my personal elevator speech for Torque is: > > Torque is designed to simplify using SQL data in Java > applications across all the common SQL > database serv

Re: What is Torque?

2010-03-08 Thread Thomas Vandahl
Greg Monroe wrote: > That said, my personal elevator speech for Torque is: > > Torque is designed to simplify using SQL data in Java applications across > all the common SQL > database servers. It allows for rapid development, while supporting the > full application life > cycle. >