TT3 sounds interesting. Looks a bit tricky to manage but I think I'll
give it a try... And if something goes wrong, then one could always
return to fabric/standard adjustments I suppose...?
garym wrote:
You can do this now with TT3.0. I have no idea why one would want to,
but it is easy
If someone built an (official/unofficial) update of the software.
Updated with the function WLAN on/off. That would be so nice. Like an
app in the server but in this case the tiny Touch server. I would
definitely buy such an app even if it's open software...
nyaskivor wrote:
If someone built an (official/unofficial) update of the software.
Updated with the function WLAN on/off. That would be so nice. .
You can do this now with TT3.0. I have no idea why one would want to,
but it is easy enough to do.
Mnyb wrote:
You can manually edit the startup scripts so that wlan never starts
Hello,
I have read this discussion and would love to switch off the WLAN.
Don't know how to adjust the lines in the Logitech Media Server and
where to do it. Only got my PC and no Linux and don't know about
Sometimes you do things because you can , or for neatness . I used
information aviable in old treads on this forum to do it ( there is a
search function and I outlined the details a couple of weeks ago ) . my
thought was to maybe that the CPU cycles could be better used to power
theUI or some
All sorted after a factory reset - thanks.
What I didn't realise is that tt -s on the Touch interface shows
'Modification WLAN - Disabled' which actually means the WLAN is ON !
(The status refers to the intention of the modification, not the actual
status of the parameter). A bit confusing but
liffy99;691584 Wrote:
All sorted after a factory reset - thanks.
What I didn't realise is that tt -s on the Touch interface shows
'Modification WLAN - Disabled' which actually means the WLAN is ON !
(The status refers to the intention of the modification, not the actual
status of the
I've installed a Buffalo wireless bridge to provide an Ethernet feed to
the Touch. It shows it is connected to my wifi network. Then disabled
the WLAN on the TOUCH ( tt -WLAN from ssh) and plugged a cable from the
bridge to the Touch. Now I can't see the Touch on the network at all!
As I have
liffy99;690694 Wrote:
I've installed a Buffalo wireless bridge to provide an Ethernet feed to
the Touch. It shows it is connected to my wifi network. Then disabled
the WLAN on the TOUCH ( tt -WLAN from ssh) and plugged a cable from the
bridge to the Touch. Now I can't see the Touch on the
liffy99;690694 Wrote:
I've installed a Buffalo wireless bridge to provide an Ethernet feed to
the Touch. It shows it is connected to my wifi network. Then disabled
the WLAN on the TOUCH ( tt -WLAN from ssh) and plugged a cable from the
bridge to the Touch. Now I can't see the Touch on the
You can manually edit the startup scripts so that wlan never starts
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Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Mnyb;547927 Wrote:
...death ray... waste of time... messy... unnecessary options... just
work probably best... illogical... new age loonies... superstition and
medieval darkness... irrational... 1000's of things 1000 times more
dangerous...
Mynb, you are hilarious! :)
At first I thought
JJZolx;527318 Wrote:
I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. The radio may still be on (I have no
way to tell), but it's certainly not connected to the network. If you
were to set up a Touch from scratch with a wired connection then it
wouldn't even have credentials to connect wirelessly.
rblnr;549338 Wrote:
So then wifi control of a wired Touch is not possible? No iPeng or
Controller? Or is there a way to get both? Would like the reliability
of wired but want control.
iPeng Controller connect through your WiFi router, not directly to
the Touch.
So yes, both is the
toby10;549341 Wrote:
iPeng Controller connect through your WiFi router, not directly to the
Touch.
So yes, both is the answer. :)
Wired Touch controlled by iPeng/Controller via WiFi.
So to belabor, wifi does not switch off when the Touch is connected via
wire to the network?
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So if I understood correctly:
- If I use ethernet to WLAN is still swiched on as well
- However,if I understood the info correct WLAN send/receives massively
less radiation into the room. Is that correct??
I've just checked it on the Radio:
# ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr
Phil Leigh;540781 Wrote:
Therefore, not providing an obvious option to disable the WI-FI on a
WI-FI product cannot be considered negligence or an accidental design
oversight and should not be discussed in the same breath.
No, you can be sure that leaving it out was anything but accidental.
Id love to to see a Turn of evil death ray option ;)
Hopefully they name it powersave bla bla or something .
They probably deemed an off option a waste of time implementing,
especially if the user suddenly want to use wifi ? then all things wifi
must be turned on again via some clever
You're missing the point. Radio energy diminished to 50% within inches
from antenna. Being very close to transmitter is not the same as just
being in the same room. Having extra wifi transmitter very close to
other audio components and cables that can possibly be not well
isolated from EMI/RF
325xi;548000 Wrote:
You're missing the point. Radio energy diminished to 50% within inches
from antenna. Being very close to transmitter is not the same as just
being in the same room. Having extra wifi transmitter very close to
other audio components and cables that can possibly be not well
Peter314;539892 Wrote:
Have you checked the latest research..?
http://miscellanea.wellingtongrey.net/comics/2007-05-27--the-truth-about-wireless-devices.png
Haven't seen that particular comic in a while! Ridicule-tactics are,
if nothing else, at least sometimes creative and humorous. :)
Phil Leigh;540781 Wrote:
Defective cars can kill and injure people... But they weren't
deliberately designed to be defective. It was an accident.
A Wi-FI product is DESIGNED to use wi-fi. Most (portable) Wi-FI
products don't have an alternative connection option. Therefore, not
providing
MrRalph;539494 Wrote:
I out-commented Samba in /etc/init.d/rcS
# Start Samba
# if [ -x /etc/init.d/samba ]; then
# /etc/init.d/samba start
# fi
and wlan
# Start wlan
# /etc/init.d/wlan start
I think that's a good solution. I would use this solution and add
John's line, that
soundcheck;539857 Wrote:
What is Samba used for on the Touch?
Cheers
For sharing the attached USB drive , Hey you got a free NAS in the deal
:)
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Phil Leigh;529968 Wrote:
This is the sort of hyperbolic twaddle we could do without on this - or
indeed any - forum IMO.
Have you checked the latest research..?
http://miscellanea.wellingtongrey.net/comics/2007-05-27--the-truth-about-wireless-devices.png
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Use both John Swenson's and wimpf's ideas simultaneously.
the rcS.local file turns of the power it's very off then.
wimpf's edit the wlan startup script unloads some modules at start up.
These used 1% and 2% cpu sbut anyway.
I also removed the wlan0 interface completely from my
I out-commented Samba in /etc/init.d/rcS
# Start Samba
# if [ -x /etc/init.d/samba ]; then
# /etc/init.d/samba start
# fi
and wlan
# Start wlan
# /etc/init.d/wlan start
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JohnSwenson;525936 Wrote:
There is nothing in the touch menus that will do that, but there is a
way to do it. You ssh into the touch and type the command:
iwconfig wlan0 txpower off
This shuts the radio off completely. Unfortunately it goes away when
you unplug the touch. To always have
Thank-you wimpf i saved 3% memory by not loading the modules.
I might not be much but Touch do not have that much memory.
And since i pulled cable to it i wont be using wlan on it.
I have wlan on SB3 Radio and Controller , so I'm not gone over to the
aluminum foil hat crowd ;)
Just wants to
Mnyb;538539 Wrote:
should it not be rcS.local file ?
Yes, typo on my part. Sometimes the fingers just do their own thing!
John S.
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wimpf;538324 Wrote:
Hi
and after reboot check with:
ifconfig lsmod
You can see there is no more wlan0 interface up and also no loaded
modules.
Greetings,
wimpf
Most of the drivers on the Touch are compiled into the kernel, not
loaded at runtime so they don't show up in the lsmod
For anyone who wants to permanently disable wifi from the Touch: Would
it perhaps be just as easy to just open it up, and remove an internal
wifi card?
Does anybody know please, if this is even possible with the Touch?
Please, does anybody know the answer to these?
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NewBuyer;536451 Wrote:
For anyone who wants to permanently disable wifi from the Touch: Would
it perhaps be just as easy to just open it up, and remove an internal
wifi card?
Does anybody know please, if this is even possible with the Touch?
The WiFi module on the Touch is not a plug in
Hi
I think it is also possible to disable wifi this way:
edit wlan startup script:
vi /etc/init.d/wlan
insert after the first line:
(go down with cursor)
:i
exit;
and save:
:wq!
do a reboot of the machine:
reboot
and after reboot check with:
ifconfig lsmod
You can see there is no more
For anyone who wants to permanently disable wifi from the Touch: Would
it perhaps be just as easy to just open it up, and remove an internal
wifi card?
Does anybody know please, if this is even possible with the Touch?
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It would be nice to beable to shut off the wifi to save power, thats the
only argument i can see for it. That being said i am to lazy to do
anything about it unless it automaticly shuts off when ethernet cable
present :)
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NewBuyer;533570 Wrote:
Ha! You still wear yours as a loin-cloth, right? :D
It depends on what electronic device I'm seeking protection from.
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mfw;530322 Wrote:
Doing a Toyota?
I suppose that could be it. :) I guess only Phil can say if that part
of Valentino's post is what got to him.
Well, I guess it's (hopefully) possible Logitech -might- install a
future menu item that would be able to completely shut off the wifi -
especially
What's the big deal? Making a hat out of foil is not difficult.
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Phil Leigh;529968 Wrote:
It wasn't the OP who provoked that response, it was this post:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=526440postcount=11
This is the sort of hyperbolic twaddle we could do without on this - or
indeed any - forum IMO.
Hey Phil - Valentino's post seems fine
Either way, this request is going to see a lot more traffic once the
Touch is released. It would be foolish to ignore it.
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Jim
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Phil Leigh;529968 Wrote:
It wasn't the OP who provoked that response, it was this post:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=526440postcount=11
This is the sort of hyperbolic twaddle we could do without on this - or
indeed any - forum IMO.
My post is the hyperbolic twaddle?
KarolG;529127 Wrote:
Hi,
I plan to use SqueezeBox Touch only as digital transport - connected
via S/PDIF to my Benchmark DAC-1.
The only thing which bothers me is the quality of digital stream - an I
mean the level of jitter.
There are many causes of jitter. One of them may be an
You will have an irresistible urge to parade down the Champs Elysee in a
swaggering manner :)
Valentino;527771 Wrote:
Now I wonder what prolonged exposure to Wagner will do to me.
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Bonnec Audiosysteme Timpano
Linn Products Akurate C4200
BUT the waves accumulate like x-rays in your body.
Well, alrighty then!
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jstraw;527743 Wrote:
BUT the waves accumulate like x-rays in your body.
Well, alrighty then!
yeah - I missed that bit... so waves accumulate do they... funny that,
I thought they just passed through, like a... like a ... WAVE!
X-rays do NOT accumulate - unlike mercury in the blood stream!.
Phil Leigh;527753 Wrote:
yeah - I missed that bit... so waves accumulate do they... funny that,
I thought they just passed through, like a... like a ... WAVE!
X-rays do NOT accumulate - unlike mercury in the blood stream!.
But...music waves accumulate in my head and I consider my head
Phil Leigh;527753 Wrote:
yeah - I missed that bit... so waves accumulate do they... funny that, I
thought they just passed through, like a... like a ... WAVE!
X-rays do NOT accumulate - unlike mercury in the blood stream!. This
is total BS. What actually happens is that the chance of
erland;527757 Wrote:
...However, I can't say I've so far remembered any WiFi waves...
That's because they killed those particular brain cells along the way.
You shouldn't worry about it though, since you will forget all about
this by tomorrow... ;)
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The proverbial 'Off Switch' ... the wives of us family men are hoping
for one too!
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I can't figure out why you would buy a touch for a five year old.
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Been having fun, have we?
Some people like to turn off radio transmitters they don't need. We
don't know yet how well our specimen react to them just yet, so why not
provide us wy too careful family men with an Off switch?
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JohnSwenson;526546 Wrote:
The Touch DOES do a form of shutting down the wifi radio if that
connection is not being used, but that does not necessarily completely
disable the radio. If you have a USB or SD card plugged in they are
being shared via samba and that might still be accessed via
NewBuyer;526318 Wrote:
So the Touch doesn't automatically disable the wifi when an ethernet
cable is plugged into it, like the SB/Transporter units do? If so,
that's disappointing...
I would think that it does, just like all other Squeezeboxes have.
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Jim
JJZolx;526321 Wrote:
I would think that it does, just like all other Squeezeboxes have.
That would make sense small cpu why load drivers that are not needed.
As linux noobish here is is easy to check if the wifi is running ?
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JJZolx;526321 Wrote:
I would think that it does, just like all other Squeezeboxes have.
Not all of them, the SB1 definitely doesn't. I had to remove the WiFi
modules to shut them off. But yes, I would indeed expect that all newer
SBs do that.
Mnyb;526324 Wrote:
As linux noobish here is is
Mnyb;526324 Wrote:
That would make sense small cpu why load drivers that are not needed.
As linux noobish here is is easy to check if the wifi is running ?
I've just checked it on the Radio:
# ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:20:XX:XX:XX
inet addr:192.168.178.50
I do think that many users would appreciate being able to switch off the
WiFi all together easily from the menu when using ethernet. In my
opinion this should be a high priority in the upcoming server releases.
mozart_puccini's absolutely right. Why do unnecessary experiment's on
our
Valentino;526440 Wrote:
mozart_puccini's absolutely right. Why do unnecessary experiment's on
our children's health?
C'mon, Logitech. You actually risk doing a Toyota here.
I concur completely. In fact, I feel we should organize ourselves and
petition microwave oven manufacturers, as
weresloth;526511 Wrote:
I concur completely. In fact, I feel we should organize ourselves and
petition microwave oven manufacturers, as well as cordless phone
companies and bluetooth device makers to stop selling their products, as
they also operate in the same radio spectrum as wireless
it's pure FUD wifi is not dangerous people have no sense of
proportions at all .
Do you perhaps venture outside your home ? what do we eat smoke and
drink ?
Being to the gym lately ?
There is formalin in hair shampoo, what about synthetic sweeteners in
light products ?
Statistically there are
NewBuyer;526318 Wrote:
So the Touch doesn't automatically disable the wifi when an ethernet
cable is plugged into it, like the SB/Transporter units do? If so,
that's disappointing...
The Touch DOES do a form of shutting down the wifi radio if that
connection is not being used, but that does
qirex;526553 Wrote:
Also whoever is responsible for that big ball of gas in the sky that
mercilessly broadcasts massive amounts of electromagnetic radiation at
the earth for HOURS a day.
Thats actually an unshielded fusion reactor !!
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Well, I knew that I would triger such concersations and people starting
to make fun of someone trying to be reasonable. I truly appreciate
John's useful comments on how to switch off the WLAN devide, that is
what I want to do.
BTW, let me give you my thinking concerning the discussion about
Helo, John
thanks for the valuable information and the solution to my idea. I will
try this and I hope I succeed.
Mozart_Puccini
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I want to use the Squeezebox with a CAT/RJ45 Ethernet cable and would
like to completely switch off the WLAN radio of the Squeezebox Touch.
Can anyone tell me if this is an option? If not, how could I best turn
WLAN off, I wont use WLAN in the future, so it could be a one-time off
and forever
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