stop-spinning wrote:
Excellent John, so in summary, a good example of an async USB DAC is the
MDAC, therefore with the well engineered MDAC, there is no need for an
intermediate re-clocker (or any form of clock upgrade), simply because
the MDAC is one example of a well implemented async USB
NoRoDa wrote:
Is SBGK getting results? How do you know that? Just 'cause he says so?
He doesn't need a resolving system, why do we then?
To find out if your system is more or less resolving, first try to find
out if the differences are in your head or in the sound coming from your
stop-spinning wrote:
Its just a matter of suck it and see. I wouldn't personally use the EDO
applet for hi-res files because I am not interest in that aspect - I
would only use the EDO applet to make the most of Async USB in order to
bypass the clocks in the SBT and use the clocks in a well
Audio Bling wrote:
What amazes me about this thread (and others) is that people who have no
direct experience will give an *opinion *about something with the
character of complete authority.. In this case, folk who presumably have
never heard an SBT with clock upgrade will say (with complete
stop-spinning wrote:
Wow SBGK - I've been looking at your blog - and its very interesting.
For those of you who have replied about not bothering with tweaks take a
look at SBGK's blog! This guy is a masterful tweaker and is getting
results.
Of course you need a resolving system to
Excellent John, so in summary, a good example of an async USB DAC is the
MDAC, therefore with the well engineered MDAC, there is no need for an
intermediate re-clocker (or any form of clock upgrade), simply because
the MDAC is one example of a well implemented async USB DAC, is that
right?
This
Hofstede wrote:
My 2 cents: All that talk about changing the clocks in the Touch is
humbug. The Touch is fine as it is. Don't waste your money.
garym wrote:
Necessary? Certainly not. Useful as a high end mod? doubtful.
What amazes me about this thread (and others) is that people who have
Audio Bling wrote:
What amazes me about this thread (and others) is that people who have no
direct experience will give an *opinion *about something with the
character of complete authority.. In this case, folk who presumably have
never heard an SBT with clock upgrade will say (with complete
garym wrote:
I didn't realize that I had to provide a CV along with my brief
response. ;-)
I have in fact heard modded touch players. So I stand by my response of
not necessary and benefits being doubtful (in my opinion). But I'm
pleased that your particular modded touch is better in
Audio Bling wrote:
I do not ask for your CV but I think you should avoid making blanket
statements..
I have a high quality DAC and the mods that I have applied to my SBT
have been very beneficial, IMO. However, I am not suggesting that all
mods will yield fruit.. But this is a long way
Wow SBGK - I've been looking at your blog - and its very interesting.
For those of you who have replied about not bothering with tweaks take a
look at SBGK's blog! This guy is a masterful tweaker and is getting
results.
Of course you need a resolving system to appreciate the tweaks no doubt
In my opinion all those wonderfull tweaks of SBGK only work in his
imagination. Not many people on this forum take him serious. Some claims
he makes are just impossible. I have added him to my ignore list long
ago. But if you want to try out and test his suggestions please feel
free
As one who has actually done a clock upgrade I can say that it DOES
significantly improve the sound of the analog outs. By clock upgrade I
mean replacing the two audio crystals that generate clocks that are used
to derive the timing for the data going to the DAC chip and the S/PDIF
outs (coax and
A good upgrade to the Touch can be a decent DAC. The clock inside the
Touch is not that bad. John Westlake (designer of the previous DacMagic
DACs , the Audiolab M-DAC and other award winning gear) has tested the
SBT and found that the clock is getting re-clocked inside the Touch.
That is
Thanks Pascal - good to know. However with the MDAC you have the
opportunity to try the EDO applet - you can alway try, then revert back
to how it was if necessary. Who knows, the sound quality might go from
'excellent' to 'sublime'.
stop-spinning wrote:
I ask this because some are saying that putting a re-clocker (such as
the so called excellent ones from Empirical Audio) make a huge
improvement to the SQ of the Touch. This, to me, means that the clocks
in the SBT are not of hi-end quality so an intermediary device such
My 2 cents: All that talk about changing the clocks in the Touch is
humbug. The Touch is fine as it is. Don't waste your money.
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Necessary? Certainly not. Useful as a high end mod? doubtful.
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stop-spinning wrote:
I
Other than that does Async USB mean you conveniently totally bypass the
internal clocks altogether (if you have a good async USB DAC like the
MDAC?).
Thanks everyone.
Thats the general idea with async usb .
it was designed for use with computers as source in
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