[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Changed in: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid => In Progress ** Changed in: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ted Gould (ted) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed t

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Branch linked: lp:~ted/ubuntu-system-settings/extreme-volume-warning -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-sound in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of high volume lev

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Branch linked: lp:~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-sound/rtm- extreme-volume-warning -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-sound in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warn

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Also affects: indicator-sound (Ubuntu RTM) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu RTM) Status: New => In Progress ** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu RTM) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ted Gould (ted) ** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubunt

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

One easy way in the indicator to know if the active port a headphone/headset: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8556022/ I think we should do the following: 1 - Check if the active port is headset; 2 - If headset, see if the volume for the multimedia role is higher than 75%. If higher, change it to 75% (th

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Branch linked: lp:~macslow/unity-settings-daemon/max-volume- notification-warning -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-sound in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of hi

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Branch linked: lp:~ted/indicator-sound/extreme-volume-warning -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-sound in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of high volume level Sta

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => In Progress ** Changed in: indicator-sound Status: Triaged => In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-sound in Ubuntu. htt

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Also affects: unity8 (Ubuntu RTM) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu RTM) Status: New => In Progress ** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu RTM) Assignee: (unassigned) => Mirco Müller (macslow) ** Also affects: unity-notifications (Ubuntu) Importan

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Changed in: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-sound in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of high v

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu) Status: New => Triaged ** Changed in: indicator-sound Status: New => Triaged ** Changed in: indicator-sound Importance: Undecided => Critical ** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Critical ** Changed in: indi

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Assignee: Charles Kerr (charlesk) => (unassigned) ** Changed in: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) Assignee: Charles Kerr (charlesk) => (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Branch linked: lp:~macslow/unity8/synchronous-notification ** Branch linked: lp:~macslow/unity-notifications/synchronous- notification -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-sound in Ubuntu. https://bugs

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Tags removed: touch-2014-10-23 ** Tags added: touch-2014-10-16 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-sound in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of high volume level St

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Changed in: ubuntu-ux Assignee: Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) => (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-sound in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of high

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

Bleh.. I should have read the wiki fully.. Mirco, the specs read "...instead of saying “Headphones” should say “High volume”, and the bar should be colored. " But there is no 'headphones' label above the icon, hence the jumping bar. -- You received this bug notification because you are a memb

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

Or the text section could be allocated, and the volume bar would not move when text is displayed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-sound in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

mpt, the "High Volume" text notification should probably be below the volume bar; that way the volume bar does not drop down/jump around while it changes color... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-soun

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

Current implementation in action... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_tvCQ5hHxI -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-sound in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of high vo

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Description changed: The EU has a legal requirement for personal music players to prevent hearing damage. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32009D0490&rid=1 - For the purpose of this Decision, a ‘personal music player’ means a - portable device

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

I agree with Charles. As all-embracing as mpt's solution for the convoluted EU-regulations is, that will not be doable in the RTM- timeframe. Still for the warning-at-75% stop-gap suggestion, I need a design- sanctioned mockup. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ub

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-sound in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of high volume leve

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

For RTM, I agree with Kevin in comment #12 about using 75% of the slider. Setting aside that it's probably literally impossible to get the actual dB coming out of a pair of headphones due to differing impedance ratings, mpt's wiki design looks well-thought-out but is not something that is implemen

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

Albert, thanks for that survey of how various systems meet Requirement 2.2. I'm fairly confident in my design for that, though, so I'm much more interested in how they meet Requirement 2.1. :-) I understand that 2.1 is much more difficult to implement (regardless of whether it's done in the driver

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

after some discussion with LT wrt timeline & requirement for this bug: 1) we'll rely on device hardware/drivers for the hard limits for 2) we provide a warning at 75% of slider with this, makes pulse opinion. ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Status: New => Opinion ** Changed in: ubuntu-

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

Shows a notification at 70/80% that doesn't let you increase the volume unless you say "ok, sure" * MWG509 Wings GII with Android 4.2 And that's all the phones i could find in the house :D -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

Shows nothing: * iPhone 5S bought in the USA (so may have not the EU law applied) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of high volu

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

As spaniard and thus still someone in the EU here is the behaviour of the phones i have around me with headset attached: Shows a notification at 70/80% that doesn't let you increase the volume unless you say "ok, sure" * Blackberry Z10 * Nexus 4 with Android 4.4 * Unknown manufacturer with And

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Critical ** Changed in: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Critical ** Tags removed: touch-2014-10-16 ** Tags added: touch-2014-10-23 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Also affects: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** No longer affects: pulseaudio -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded pa

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

based on the specification that's been provided it would seem that the audio subsystem would need to be involved for "measuring dB output" as this will always be a potential driven by a combination of sw & hw (e.g. sound subsystem needs to provide a means of reporting dB per volume setting) al

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

Specification updated. ** Changed in: ubuntu-ux Status: In Progress => Fix Committed ** Description changed: The EU has a legal requirement for personal music players to prevent hearing damage. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/leg

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

A corollary is that it's fine to listen 24×7 if the volume is 47 dB(A) or less. So I guess that's the volume we should reduce to if you hit the limit. Six cases to consider: (turn up too loud, listening loud too long) × (OSD, System Settings, indicator menu). We'll probably use the same text acros

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

"At 80 dB(A) exposure time shall be limited to 40 hours/week, whereas at 89 dB(A) exposure time shall be limited to 5 hours/week. For other exposure levels a linear intra- and extrapolation applies." I'll put this here for others to check while I do the rest of the design: maximum time per week =

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

Just as well I looked up the actual regulation ... It turns out that we don't just need to warn about high volume, but limit high volume by time as well. ** Description changed: - The EU apparently has a legal requirement, when volume is high, to show - a warning of some sort. + The EU has a lega

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Description changed: - Apparently there is a legal requirement, when volume is high, to show a - warning of some sort. + The EU apparently has a legal requirement, when volume is high, to show + a warning of some sort. + + Discussion of the need for the requirement: + + http://ec.europa.eu/he

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Changed in: ubuntu-ux Status: Triaged => In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to unity8 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of high volume level Status in Ubun

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Tags removed: touch-2014-10-02 ** Tags added: touch-2014-10-16 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to unity8 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of high volume level Status in U

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Changed in: ubuntu-ux Importance: Undecided => Critical -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to unity8 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of high volume level Status in Ubunt

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

yeah, please keep 'em seperate. this one is about the max vol notification not the generic volume changer grahpic feedback -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to unity8 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/13734

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

Mirco from other bug This warning is only shown to the user (on Android) if headphones are plugged it. We too could display such a warning by triggering a corresponding snap- decision from indicator-sound. With our current notification-system we have all needed means for this in place. But what i

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

This topic is also being discussed in bug 1232633 so may want to dupe, for now will tag for same date ** Tags added: touch-2014-10-02 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to unity8 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.n

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Changed in: ubuntu-ux Status: New => Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to unity8 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of high volume level Status in Ubuntu UX bu

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Critical ** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to unity8 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/b

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Tags added: rtm14 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to unity8 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of high volume level Status in Ubuntu UX bugs: New Status in “unity8” packa

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1373404] Re: No warning of high volume level

** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Mirco Müller (macslow) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to unity8 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373404 Title: No warning of high volume