Re: [Toybox] [musl] kernel design

2015-01-28 Thread stephen Turner
Im not confident any one kernel type i have found is better than the other really. To me it seems like small simple and to the point always wins. musl, toybox, these micro kernels all have that. But over time #@$% gets bloated and I/O stacks dont get updated for new tech etc and everything slows t

Re: [Toybox] [musl] kernel design

2015-01-28 Thread stephen Turner
Rich and Rob, Have you seen the new flash ram technology coming out? SSD strapped to a ram bus and its fast. http://highscalability.com/blog/2012/1/19/is-it-time-to-get-rid-of-the-linux-os-model-in-the-cloud.html Rich, since you tweeted about kernel stuff this is a good thing to keep in mind if y

Re: [Toybox] Is binutils neccessary?

2015-01-28 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Rob Landley wrote: > It was one of those tools like arj and binkleyterm that and zmodem that > were just there, free downloads that didn't do enough shareware begathon > popups to make them unusable. (There were buckets of these, zip comes > from pkzip, which was c

Re: [Toybox] Is binutils neccessary?

2015-01-28 Thread Rob Landley
On 01/28/2015 06:46 AM, Daniel Cegiełka wrote: > 2015-01-28 4:51 GMT+01:00 Rob Landley : >> >> (Did I mention computer history is a hobby of mine?) >> >>> Rich >> >> Rob >> > > Rob, you're famous :) > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8958591 It's actually very nice of them to track down

Re: [Toybox] Is binutils neccessary?

2015-01-28 Thread Rob Landley
On 01/28/2015 06:46 AM, Daniel Cegiełka wrote: > 2015-01-28 4:51 GMT+01:00 Rob Landley : >> >> (Did I mention computer history is a hobby of mine?) >> >>> Rich >> >> Rob >> > > Rob, you're famous :) > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8958591 Why do these things always go viral when it's of

Re: [Toybox] [musl] kernel design

2015-01-28 Thread stephen Turner
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Nathan McSween wrote: > An exokernel just multiplexes resources, similar concept to 'unikernel' > design such as ellcc bare metal project except that unikernels includes the > api within the kernel (as I understand). IMO the best would a single > address space bu

[Toybox] kernel design

2015-01-28 Thread stephen Turner
so I have found 4 kernel types, exo, mono, mach, hybrid. the Exo sounds like the way to go but im curious if it could be built to work with the existing linux world without rewriting everything for it. since i have no programming knowledge im just curious what you guys think about it if you have g

Re: [Toybox] Is binutils neccessary?

2015-01-28 Thread Daniel Cegiełka
2015-01-28 4:51 GMT+01:00 Rob Landley : > > (Did I mention computer history is a hobby of mine?) > >> Rich > > Rob > Rob, you're famous :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8958591 Daniel ___ Toybox mailing list Toybox@lists.landley.net http://lists