[Trac] Re: Encrypted WIKI pages

2007-07-31 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
This is a different issue than obfuscating data. You are talking about making a webapp that doesn't trust the server. The Web (as defined as HTML+JS+CSS+HTTP+etc) is not designed to provide this kind of end-to-end security, and attempts to layer it on top are fraught with peril. Solutions

[Trac] Re: Encrypted WIKI pages

2007-07-31 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
If you really insist on this otherwise silly feature, you should look at one of the Fx/GPG integration plugins. FireGPG is the first that comes to mind. Doing this is kind of multistep security is very broken and should be regarded as worthless when compared to a real security solution. I

[Trac] Re: Encrypted WIKI pages

2007-07-31 Thread Vincent
Oh, and in this case, it's an internal wiki behind a VPN+firewall. Access and making sure that the information isn't stored in a compromised format is the issue as I understand it. On Jul 31, 3:52 pm, Noah Kantrowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This feature really makes little sense. The correct

[Trac] Re: Encrypted WIKI pages

2007-07-31 Thread Vincent
Well, let me try to explain the feature again. The intent is to store passwords and to do so in a way that isn't just the information being encrypted on transmission from serverside to browser, but to not have the information available in plaintext to begin with. It would be similar to sending e

[Trac] Re: Encrypted WIKI pages

2007-07-31 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
This feature really makes little sense. The correct way to do this is server-side authorization controls. SSL provides transport security already. The "once the users password is cracked" issue is orthogonal, and means you need a better authentication system than simple passwords. I would

[Trac] Re: Encrypted WIKI pages

2007-07-31 Thread Vincent
I would tend to agree with you. In fact I completely agreed with you until I looked into this a bit. And yes, ultimately, you're kind of right - end-to-end security and HTML isn't quite consistent. But in the event of hey I want to post a message and provide an easy way to encrypt/decrypt it if

[Trac] Re: Encrypted WIKI pages

2007-07-31 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
You should use the new context-dependent permissions system. Look at the authz-policy sample plugin. If you want end-to-end security, don't use HTML. --Noah On Jul 31, 2007, at 5:47 PM, Vincent wrote: > > As an addendum, the client who requested this feature found this link > to an equivale

[Trac] Re: Encrypted WIKI pages

2007-07-31 Thread Vincent
As an addendum, the client who requested this feature found this link to an equivalent feature written in Ruby. Seems to me this could be done client side (presuming there is some sort of cryptology library available for javascript) but it could also be done as a python process. Will do more res