Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Chromium and its FFMPEG codecs considered free software?

2011-07-22 Thread akirashinigami
It doesn't have anything to do with people hating Google. Licensing is what makes software free or non-free. If the license for some parts of the software is unclear, then we can't really say it's free. If that issue is ever cleared up, then we will be able to. Unfortunately, I don't kno

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 5.0 LTS alpha images ready for testing

2011-07-22 Thread adrian . malacoda
Run this command: dmesg | grep DEBLOBBED If you get anything back, then that particular driver requires non-free firmware that has been removed in the Linux Libre kernel.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 5.0 LTS alpha images ready for testing

2011-07-22 Thread tegskywalker
I have an RT2870 based wireless card that works natively in Ubuntu 11.04 and Debian testing. When I load the live CD, I get a warning about the rt2800usb driver missing. When I do an iwconfig in the terminal, it sees that it is there for wlan0 even though there is no RT2870.bin in /etc/firmwa

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Chromium and its FFMPEG codecs considered free software?

2011-07-22 Thread tegskywalker
Could you specify which parts are iffy? This is why I'm a little confused between open sourced and "free" software. Anyone can modify and compile the browser from source under a BSD license and use it for personal or business reasons. Are you worried that maybe one of those licences would dow

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Chromium and its FFMPEG codecs considered free software?

2011-07-22 Thread adrian . malacoda
Chromium is the non-branded version of Google Chrome. Chromium is to Chrome as "abrowser" is to Firefox.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Chromium and its FFMPEG codecs considered free software?

2011-07-22 Thread adrian . malacoda
Recommending non-free addons does not in itself make it non-free (although it does make it unsuitable for inclusion in Trisquel), and I'd like to think anyone who uses Trisquel and goes out of their way to install additional software knows enough about software freedom to stay away from the n

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Chromium and its FFMPEG codecs considered free software?

2011-07-22 Thread tegskywalker
"Chromium also recommends non-free plugins (like Adobe Flash.) Perhaps those parts could be removed?" This should be ok with Chromium license right? Because if you do that with Firefox, then you are violating their license right? That explains why the variants like "abrowser", Iceweasel (wh

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Chromium and its FFMPEG codecs considered free software?

2011-07-22 Thread mithrandiragain
This was discussed somewhat [https://trisquel.info/gl/forum/chromium-web-browser-freelibre last year], and there was [http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.gnu-linux-libre/344 this] somewhat long discussion about it back in '09. Also note that some [https://code.google.com/p/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 5.0 LTS alpha images ready for testing

2011-07-22 Thread Daemonax
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 12:37 -0500, Quiliro Ordóñez wrote: > El 22/07/11 09:48, alonivt...@gmail.com escribió: > > My friend's i7 seems to work (Compiz and 2D work) but it isn't as > > smooth as my netbook. I guess I'll need to add a PPA of the latest > > Intel drivers to fix it. > > > > > That

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Chromium and its FFMPEG codecs considered free software?

2011-07-22 Thread akirashinigami
According to http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Software_blacklist#chromium-browser, there are two problems: that the license information for some files is unclear, and that Chromium recommends non-free plugins. It's been that way for a while though. Perhaps they've fixed the license problem by n

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Chromium and its FFMPEG codecs considered free software?

2011-07-22 Thread tegskywalker
I think there is a list of licenses at http://code.google.com/chromium/terms.html but as you said, some may be of unknown origin or license they aren't telling. Ubuntu also hosts Chromium at http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/chromium-browser in their universe which is thought to be free. I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Chromium and its FFMPEG codecs considered free software?

2011-07-22 Thread adrian . malacoda
I think chromium contains source code of unknown origin and/or license. I dont think its non free per se but the unknown bits make it risky enough that free distros dont include it. As for the codecs, ffmpeg can be built to include non free codecs (such as FAAC) so theres a possibility. If

[Trisquel-users] Is Chromium and its FFMPEG codecs considered free software?

2011-07-22 Thread Teg Skywalker
Do the Chromium browser and the chromium-codecs-ffmpeg qualify for free software under its BSD license? Obviously, it is the non proprietary alternative to Google Chrome and in many ways the license and branding is less restrictive than Firefox. I'm also asking about chromium-codecs-ffmpeg inst

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 5.0 LTS alpha images ready for testing

2011-07-22 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 22/07/11 09:48, alonivt...@gmail.com escribió: My friend's i7 seems to work (Compiz and 2D work) but it isn't as smooth as my netbook. I guess I'll need to add a PPA of the latest Intel drivers to fix it. That is as good as not using free software. Are you willing to give up freedom?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 5.0 LTS alpha images ready for testing

2011-07-22 Thread alonivtsan
My friend's i7 seems to work (Compiz and 2D work) but it isn't as smooth as my netbook. I guess I'll need to add a PPA of the latest Intel drivers to fix it.