Re: [Trisquel-users] Some Questions About Trisquel Partitions

2012-09-25 Thread teodorescup
Well, for me it's relevant that ext4 can be shrunk and xfs can't and checking ext4 file system takes longer than xfs but uses less RAM. I use ext4 for / because I prefer full disk encryption with the netinstall and is more simple; and xfs I use inside my LUKS partitions (basically everythin

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread Ivaylo Valkov
В 18:10 +0200 на 25.09.2012 (вт), aliasb...@gmail.com написа: > I didn't knew it wasn't invented by Apple but by another enterprise :S... > Sorry for my mistake. Well it is more accurate to say that they are involved with the project in a major way than they invented it. According to Wikipedia,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Steam client coming to Linux. Will you guys still hate it?

2012-09-25 Thread slasha3
I wasn't able to answer all of your questions, but I did my best. :) > So if I understand right, this doesn't have anything to do with Databases and informations hold in them, it has only to do with the software that was created by the enterprise and that is used to communicate with the soft

Re: [Trisquel-users] Steam client coming to Linux. Will you guys still hate it?

2012-09-25 Thread aliasbody
So if I understand right, this doesn't have anything to do with Databases and informations hold in them, it has only to do with the software that was created by the enterprise and that is used to communicate with the software right ? But (and I can be totally wrong here), for a software lik

Re: [Trisquel-users] Steam client coming to Linux. Will you guys still hate it?

2012-09-25 Thread chris
So the software on the desktop computer might be free software. This is software where the source code is available and anybody can make changes, fix code, and generally improve upon it. The software on the server that is used in conjunction with this free software that runs on the desktop

Re: [Trisquel-users] Steam client coming to Linux. Will you guys still hate it?

2012-09-25 Thread aliasbody
Sorry for restoring and old thread. Just one question. I already seen in many posts conversations about a client being Free Software but the server being proprietary, and to be honest I have a hard time understanding what this means :S Does this means a server where the user don't have "wri

[Trisquel-users] Re : Some Questions About Trisquel Partitions

2012-09-25 Thread magicbanana
Another distinction is that ext4 filesystem can be both shrunk and extended, whereas an XFS filesystem can only be extended.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread aliasbody
Thank you for your support :D

Re: [Trisquel-users] H-node

2012-09-25 Thread slasha3
> for some strange reason we couldn't get the native resolution of his screen Sounds familiar. It took me hours to get xorg.conf working on my gNewSense 2.3 setup, on a Dell laptop. How long ago was that? Because those issues don't occur for me on newer operating systems like Trisquel 5.0+.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread slasha3
FWIW I'll add my opinion on licensing: I'll accept any Free Software license. If two similar software packages are licensed under permissive and copyleft licenses, I'll choose the best one in terms of quality. When it comes to choosing a license for my own projects, I would /probably/ cho

Re: [Trisquel-users] H-node

2012-09-25 Thread chris
:) h-node is luck though. ThinkPenguin is not luck. We're shipping back 35 printers because of an issue tomorrow. This is for a printer we have been selling for at least a year. Trust me. It's luck when you get hardware that is what you expected based on a model number. If other sellers p

Re: [Trisquel-users] Some Questions About Trisquel Partitions

2012-09-25 Thread moilami
Some argue XFS to be more robust file system than EXT4. EXT4 can be faster when dealing with small files. XFS can be faster with big files. You can search for XFS vs EXT4 performance benchmarks from www.phoronix.org. In the end it doesn't matter much which you chose because both are very goo

Re: [Trisquel-users] Some Questions About Trisquel Partitions

2012-09-25 Thread em9002
ext4 and xfs are different file systems for formatting a storage device. The actual differences between the two are pretty technical, and not particularly relevant for average users. If you want to know more, try reading the Wikipedia pages for ext4 and xfs. And no, nothing bad is going t

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread moilami
So that's it about Apple and "innovation" then. Apple is a very nasty company¹ and the praise of Apple is completely and totally unfounded. I can't to the best of my ability say anything good about Apple. The best example of their overhyped products is iPhone. Come on, we had mobile phones

[Trisquel-users] Some Questions About Trisquel Partitions

2012-09-25 Thread john . wilkins21
Don't get Me wrong - I love Trisquel but I have a few questions. I normally run a 'duel boot' hard disc but initially I installed Trisquel to the total hard disc just to see what it did. I then re-installed it as a duel boot on an ext 4 partition. So My questions are :- a) What is the differenc

[Trisquel-users] Re : Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread magicbanana
You specify the license for art (or any other copyrightable work in fact) in the same way as you do for software: include a file containing the copyright notice. Of course, you want to be clear about what file is under what license (like in "every file in the "data" repertory, and its sub-dir

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread tegskywalker
Webkit anyone? I know they didn't invent what it was based on (KHTML), but they made it mainstream and put it out there for everyone to tinker with. Webkit is now a highly used rendering engine that powers Chromium/Chrome and Safari.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem With Folder Permissions

2012-09-25 Thread jbar
You're right. I have just tried to change permissions in a fat32 pendrive and nothing happens after executing chmod.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread Michał Masłowski
> Just one last question. I know how we can specify a licence for a > software (I already have done), but how can we do this for art ? For > example, inside a GPL project (game or software) what is the > difference between "shareable" PNG and a not "shareable" PNG ? Usually such art isn't combined

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread aliasbody
I misused some words but yes I was not totally wrong :D Thank you for explaining me the rest I didn't had already understood. Just one last question. I know how we can specify a licence for a software (I already have done), but how can we do this for art ? For example, inside a GPL project

[Trisquel-users] Re : Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread magicbanana
The FSF fully supports the LGPL and recommends it when it appropriate. Here is its opinion (from the same article as earlier): If your project is a library, and developers are already using an established alternative library released under a nonfree or permissive license, then we recommend us

Re: [Trisquel-users] H-node

2012-09-25 Thread Michał Masłowski
> One more thing I think could help is getting the h-client included > into Trisquel 6.0 by default. That would help increase the > participation in and awareness of h-node. Ditto every other free > distro! See http://h-node.org/wiki/page/en/ToDo#h-client for some features that might be useful. I

[Trisquel-users] Re : Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread magicbanana
You did not get the FSF opinion quite right. It is not about preferring a permissive license whenever an equivalent proprietary application exists. It is about preferring a permissive license to push a free format competing against a proprietary one (Opus vs. MP3, WebM vs MPEG-4, etc.). This

Re: [Trisquel-users] H-node

2012-09-25 Thread mikko . viinamaki
I think we have to forget statistical methods while our sample is still relatively small and opt for a general description (and ratings for easy access to h-node users) of the vendors. Many vendors will get a bad score but that unfortunately only reflects reality. This is something we should

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread Michał Masłowski
> We must prefer a permissive licence for something that needs to be > integrated with software, and compete with proprietary software (like > codecs), in order for people and developers to use it and promote it > at the best without restrictions. > > But for anything else that doesn't work "inside

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread tegskywalker
The strength of using a permissive license is using it for software that will be used as libraries and be linked to from both free and propreitary software. The LGPL also serves this purpose, but I have read that many lawyers who advise companies tell them to be weary of LGPL licensed softwar

Re: [Trisquel-users] Opus has been accepted as a standard! Win for all of us!

2012-09-25 Thread tegskywalker
Chrome, Firefox, and Opera are in the process of implementing WebRTC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC) which may remove the need for a dedicated client for audio and video chat. They are trying to use royalty free video and audio codecs and although Opus is a clear leader for audio, no

Re: [Trisquel-users] H-node

2012-09-25 Thread chris
I'm not going to write to them at the moment. :) Our support beyond English is very limited to non-existent at the moment. Feel free to do so though if you like. It's a work in progress. The plan of action is to get the new site up (had an Oct 1st goal for the finishing the code portion- it

Re: [Trisquel-users] H-node

2012-09-25 Thread chris
While it might be difficult to impossible to find some of our products elsewhere some of them are manufactured for us specifically. We are working with a distributor for instance. Although you won't necessarily find any of the products on store shelves at the moment. The customers are larger

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread Stefano
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:05 PM, wrote: > And? I used CUPS before 2007 in Gentoo. It worked well. Was it developed by > Apple, and what part of they invented? This is becoming pointless... anyway, you are free to browse the releases, run diff on them, and see what they've improved and the bugs t

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread aliasbody
So if I understand this right. We must prefer a permissive licence for something that needs to be integrated with software, and compete with proprietary software (like codecs), in order for people and developers to use it and promote it at the best without restrictions. But for anything e

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread aliasbody
I didn't knew it wasn't invented by Apple but by another enterprise :S... Sorry for my mistake. To be honest I was very surprise to see Free Software developed by Apple.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Opus has been accepted as a standard! Win for all of us!

2012-09-25 Thread magicbanana
IM software are not reducible to the format used for audio encryption, i.e., Pidgin and Skype can use the same audio codec yet not be compatible. There is, in particular, a whole protocol on top of the codecs.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread moilami
And? I used CUPS before 2007 in Gentoo. It worked well. Was it developed by Apple, and what part of they invented?

Re: [Trisquel-users] General issue with Trisquel 5.5 installer and PATA HDDs ?

2012-09-25 Thread holger . beetz
Look, if I remember correctly both machines I set up showed similar behaviour: Both have PATA drives, had already Linux installed and a pre-partitioned drive. Generating one preformated ext3 partition on the HDD "solved" the issue. Unfortunately I do not feel like re-installing the last box,

[Trisquel-users] Re : Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread magicbanana
So what? The Apache 2 license still allows proprietary forks! It only forces the persistence of a file that will acknowledge that you have contributed a great deal to the proprietary application the user received. Personally, I would rather not have my name written in any proprietary applicat

[Trisquel-users] Re : Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread magicbanana
Funny again. To the sentence: "I think that a young student that creates a Game Company based on Free Software and release it under the BSD licence is giving the keys for anyone to take the software and turn it to proprietary". t3g's answer is: "I listed jQuery which is under an MIT license a

Re: [Trisquel-users] H-node

2012-09-25 Thread Antonio Gallo
Hi, this is a very interesting topic.. H-node is born with the aim of collecting hardware and many steps have been carried out in order to make its information useful for the free software community. Many other steps have to be done. We should distinguish between sellers and vendors. At h-node.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread magicbanana
You are entirely right except for the second point. A GPL code cannot be integrated (even by linkage) to a non-GPL application. An LGPL code can be linked to any other code but the changes to the actual LGPL code must be under this same LGPL license. This make sense when making a library th

Re: [Trisquel-users] Opus has been accepted as a standard! Win for all of us!

2012-09-25 Thread Igor . Zobin
So in near future my Kopete or Pidgin will be able to just add a Skype account? Un-f***ing-believable :D

[Trisquel-users] Re : Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread magicbanana
Funny that you consider contradicting *your* points (I have not introducing new topic in the thread) as "hijacking". Like always, you do not answer any of the contradictions and come up with some more misleading statements... what is far less funny. After reading your post it looks like Sta

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread Stefano
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:18 AM, wrote: > Are you saying Apple invented CUPS? Somehow... from terminal, run ~ man cupsd and scroll down to the end of the page. You will see the following: COPYRIGHT Copyright 2007-2011 by Apple Inc. Wikipedia has more information about it https://e

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread moilami
Are you saying Apple invented CUPS?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem With Folder Permissions

2012-09-25 Thread mikko . viinamaki
If the path contains a space, e.g. New Folder it must be escaped New\ Folder

Re: [Trisquel-users] H-node

2012-09-25 Thread mikko . viinamaki
You Chris are probably one of the most knowledgeable people when it comes to hardware free software compatibility. I think you might want to talk to the h-node guys to improve the site further. I've found them nice to deal with and open to new ideas. It would benefit us all.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread aliasbody
I totally agree that it isn't an excuse (even if it helps Gnu/Linux and the Free Software world, by going unethical and creating/using proprietary software), but what would be the Gnu/Linux printing without Cups ? (It seriously think that it could be better but I can be wrong).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Compatibility with T430 ThinkPad laptop

2012-09-25 Thread mikko . viinamaki
>Sorry, my previous post per e-mail ended up in the wrong place and empty. Don't know why. That's a silly forum bug, along with duplicate posts sometimes.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone interested on a Trisquel Gnu/Linux Forum Android application ?

2012-09-25 Thread moilami
"[...] but what would be our world without BSD and Apple ? Better ? Worse ?" -- aliasbody "But we all deserve the end of Jobs' malign influence on people's computing." --RMS. I suppose RMS does not need Apple OSX or iphone. I don't need those either. Never have had anything Apple and prob