Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread chris
Yea- if the distribution did "fall back" to Debian it would make sense probably to merge with gNewSense. As I say lower down here I don't think that would necessarily be a good idea.

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread chris
The Debian definition of free is different too don't forget! But yea- your basically right. For the most part the Debian definition and the FSF definition align pretty well. I don't know that it would be any easier to base Trisquel off Debian or vice versa. It might be easier to base it off

Re: [Trisquel-users] Difficulty compiling from source

2013-03-09 Thread onpon4
It's still backslashes, but it usually accepts forward slashes too now (though sometimes it decides to interpret it as an argument instead of a path separater).

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread viniciussm
Yes, Debian is 'optionally' free. It is not endorsed by the FSF because they make it easy to renounce your freedom right in the installer (by asking you if you want to install proprietary firmware for your hardware if it needs it), and by including an official repository for non-free software

[Trisquel-users] Re : Difficulty compiling from source

2013-03-09 Thread magicbanana
I guess you should provide the whole path to the script. Besides, unless it changed, directories are separated by "\" in a Windows path.

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread tegskywalker
I thought Debian wasn't endorsed by the FSF due to the availability of the contrib and non-free repositories that contain questionable software? Plus, Debian Stable packages are more outdated than the 12.04.2 LTS and it is debatable which one is more stable.

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread viniciussm
If you type 'sudo tasksel' there are some server options to install. The Ubuntu server kernel is still blobbed. I don't know much about the server iso, although Debian is a more free server.

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread tegskywalker
Would there ever be a server edition ISO that matches the default installed packages as the Ubuntu Server ISO? Besides the kernel and firmware, I would assume the Ubuntu Server ISO includes and installs only free software?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Difficulty compiling from source

2013-03-09 Thread ejectmail
I'm still doing something wrong. Here's what I did on the Windows computer: 1. Download apt-offline.zip 2. Run python setup.py build and python setup.py install as the Install file says to 3. Open a terminal in the appropriate directory and run apt-offline get -d F:/Script F:/apt.sig I rece

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread viniciussm
We could be working on more editions at the time. Xfce, KDE, and improving the Mini. If we go to the debian route we should just merge with gNewSense. The 'idealist' free distribution is already fit by Parabola which removes anything even remotely related to proprietary like fat support.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Difficulty compiling from source

2013-03-09 Thread gustavo_cm
Thanks! A more resumed guide (without taking into consideration the variety of systems used, assuming it's Trisquel on both machines) would be: (remember to transfer the removable device to the computer mentioned on each step before following that step...) 1. Install apt-offline in both inv

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread chris
I have always had a feeling that gNewSense had other objectives for which it had largely achieved and never actually was fit for other purposes. Trisquel was and is the right solution for desktop users. The gNewSense purposes being to put forth an example of what a free software distribution

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread gustavo_cm
Great. I totally support migrating to this LTS-only release method. Just a thought on a matter that appeared later: since there is already a 100% FaiF GNU/Linux distro based on Debian (gNewSense, despite it's not ready yet for most users), wouldn't migrating Trisquel's base to Debian let alon

[Trisquel-users] Re : Difficulty compiling from source

2013-03-09 Thread magicbanana
I did. :-) Would you try apt-offline? It would even be nice to turn my steps into a manual but trying the solution first is a must and I have no real interest doing so (all my computers being connected to the Internet).

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread tegskywalker
I was also thinking about how the upgrades from one LTS version to the next go. Traditionally, Ubuntu can be updated from one LTS to the next as soon as it is released if the user manually does a release upgrade. It is only with the .1 point release and higher (like 12.04.1) that the update

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread viniciussm
Sorry what I said was a proposal from the previous meeting: http://trisquel.info/files/trisquel-dev.2013-02-26-17.10.log_.txt See at 18:00:16

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread chris
Debian has backports for stable: http://backports-master.debian.org/ I'm not sure how well that works compared to testing although it sounds to me like it should be better than trying to go with Debian testing (which breaks from time to time).

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread viniciussm
About the release, don't get so frustrated anymore. It has already been moved to cdimage.trisquel.info (where official releases go), it is unlikely to be changed although possible. If you were in the dev channel you'd see that even Ruben is somewhat mad about this version and wants to release

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread lloyd
I wholeheartedly agree with this decision. LTS 4tW! Regarding Debian - I can see advantages and disadvantages to moving over. The important ones, as have already been pointed out in this thread, are systemd vs upstart, Wayland vs Mir, etc. Perhaps the most important advantage Debain would h

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread ahj
An excellent decision. I hope this alleviates the development pressures that Ruben must be feeling.

Re: [Trisquel-users] After version 6, Trisquel is moving to LTS only releases.

2013-03-09 Thread f3rn4nd0 . n3gr0
A wise decision, in my opinion. I even thought of proposing just that, in the previous discussions that I saw being held here. But refrained myself from doing so, because, not only am I not part of the developing team, but also, because I'm still waiting for Trisquel 6 to be released (exact

Re: [Trisquel-users] String to change?

2013-03-09 Thread fmateotti
If you're interested in changing the icon on the hud launcher I made one for trisquel back in November. http://imgur.com/UPhnk Save it and then move it to /usr/share/unity/4/ and call it launcher_bfb.png Note that I haven't used unity on 6.0 yet so that 4 might have changed to 5.