Re: [Trisquel-users] Front end for qrencode

2013-12-07 Thread thomas . pickham
This is nice, but I think I've got it working slightly better. I've attached a patch with my changes, just put the patch in the same directory as qr.sh and run patch

Re: [Trisquel-users] linux mint menu, in gnome2/mate desktop

2013-12-07 Thread dhunt
Using XFCE in Arch, with no display manager; really need to parabolize this thing!

[Trisquel-users] Front end for qrencode

2013-12-07 Thread gramex
I made a small shell script in about 10 minutes that simplifies making QR codes with qrencode, available in Trisquel's repos. I place it into the public domain with CC0. Enter sudo apt-get install qrencode into the terminal to install qrencode, if it hasn't been installed already. Type ch

Re: [Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-07 Thread gramex
It depends if the text is on screen (72 DPI) or on paper.

[Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-07 Thread adel . afzal
I read somewhere that serif fonts are easier to read than sans serif fonts. Wikipedia says so as well, but it also says that studies have been inconclusive. What do you guys think? If Serif is probably easier to read, should we change the Documentation's body text to a serif font? https

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread quiliro
> I think our efforts are in vain . There are psychological reasons why many > people in here think of debian as "not holy enough". Who said Debian had to be holy? It just has to be true: it is not a free distro because it does not offer its users freedom. If they would be direct about that, it wo

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread quiliro
> So then you agree with me that the optional non-free repos in debian are > not > a freedom issue. > There is no other conclusion. ROTFL!

[Trisquel-users] Re : Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread magicbanana
Up to now, we were discussing additional free software options! If the additional option is proprietary, then it represents an additional temptation to give up your freedoms. When the official website of the project proposes the one-click installation of proprietary applications, it also be

[Trisquel-users] instant messenger page in the Documentation

2013-12-07 Thread adel . afzal
Is MSN messenger gone now? We have applications in the Documenation that support only MSN. If the MSN protocol doesn't work anymore, can we remove those MSN-specific applications from the page? https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/chatting

[Trisquel-users] Re : Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread magicbanana
Of course having many kernels is not giving freedom, but the fact that Debian has been bringing free software to many different architectures and using different kernels IS providing freedom It looks like you affirm something... and then the exact opposite! If Debian is "the son who goes out

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Projects - fund them with Kickstarter

2013-12-07 Thread Andresmp
Agreed a crowd funding campaign such as mediagoblin did sounds like a good idea.

[Trisquel-users] Just joined gnusocial is there a trisquel group?

2013-12-07 Thread Andresmp
Hi all, some time ago I was using identi.ca and I joined tbe trisquel group. I am unsure but I think the microblog feed on trisquel.info no longer works.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread shiretoko
Yes, I'm currently using Debian wheezy on my main laptop. Trisquel is on my old desktop pc. Hmm it's hard to explain why I prefer debian on my laptop. Maybe for the same reasons like you! I just have a better feeling in terms of security. Debian is so damn reliable. It's stable like a rock an

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread gnuser
Agreed. But I am not one not to speak my mind on things, so (as you discovered in our past "debates") whenever this issue comes up, I will fight the good fight. And if I was able to convince you that "piracy" is in some ways, bad, maybe one day I will make other people realize that Debian is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread adfenohuvlov
Wow! This looks like a hot thread. Well... Looks like I'll, anyway, contribute to it. We do know that, without GNU+Linux distributions like Debian, Trisquel and many others wouldn't exist. And without the FSF, Debian wouldn't exist. Why did the FSF stop helping Debian? Simple, because Debian

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread shiretoko
I think our efforts are in vain . There are psychological reasons why many people in here think of debian as "not holy enough". There is one thing I learned from rms: "I don't try to convince people whose minds are already made up; it's too unlikely to succeed."

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread shiretoko
So then you agree with me that the optional non-free repos in debian are not a freedom issue. There is no other conclusion.

Re: [Trisquel-users] gluglug thinkpad x60 w/ coreboot mini review

2013-12-07 Thread gnuser
If I could trade my current laptop (that is actually pretty free software friendly, not much to complain...) by one of those, I would. But spending money on another computer is really not the main need I have right now. I am still happy to see these, and hope more will come. Maybe some other

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread gnuser
Quoting Richard Stallman "In 1981, using a computer in freedom was impossible, all operating systems were proprietary". In this sentence RMS says 2 things: 1. Many options don't necessarily mean more freedom, if none of them is free; 2. The lack of options equals a lack of freedom, if no free

[Trisquel-users] Re : Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread magicbanana
Indeed. Because the control of the work and the number of alternatives to achieve it are unrelated. Having more (or less) choices does not give more freedom. Those are orthogonal dimensions. And the best is obviously to maximize both (although the success of Apple would suggest some users a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread shiretoko
"We are talking about having a choice of kernels and/or CPU architectures to run our distribution." Why are you only talking about those kind of choices? I don't. Let's turn things the other way round: How should an additional choice take away freedom? Obviously not at all.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread dadix
Merging these distro with Debian Sid is necessary because all the developers from Debian are working on Sid (unstable) packages . In Jessie (testing)(Ubuntu is based on this) are most of the beta testers. We need all the developers to make a strong desktop distribution. Of course like all oth

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using external monitor for a secondary (virtual) desktop view

2013-12-07 Thread janprunk
OK, I solved the issue. To explain: It was from this manual (I was getting the same error in Gnome/Display settings): http://askubuntu.com/questions/126392/problem-connecting-multiple-monitors-on-12-04-problema-al-conectar-monitores-ub But creating virtual area and the xorg.conf file seems t

Re: [Trisquel-users] linux mint menu, in gnome2/mate desktop

2013-12-07 Thread edwin . andrivet
My favorite DE is Enlightenment - discovered last week - and I don't use any DM, I'm using it on Arch Linux (I first tried in Debian but it gave problems :S and I need non-free wifi drivers unfortunately so I can't use Parabola). I really like the look of it (but I don't know how to use vpn,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread sirgazil
dadix, +1 to merging gNewSense and Trisquel and base the resulting distro on Debian. In the future, though, I think I'll do whatever I can in GNU Guix. If I understand correctly, it will become a distro as well, and it is libre by default (libre as in FSF definition).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel Without an Internet Connection

2013-12-07 Thread gaming4jc2
I installed using the normal mode (Live CD >> Use installer from desktop) and it works offline. It should be possible with text mode too, just skip the part that asks to configure networking and make sure it's unplugged from the internet.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using external monitor for a secondary (virtual) desktop view

2013-12-07 Thread onpon4
Hm? AMD CPUs often have Radeon integrated graphics. If you want a better video card, I suggest the one sold by Think Penguin (It's under Accessories): http://libre.thinkpenguin.com

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hey jxself, can we get linux-generic-lts-raring and linux-generic-lts-saucy kernels?

2013-12-07 Thread gaming4jc2
>The "oh you need this done? here's the source code so do it yourself" free >software mentality is very common and thrown around a lot. It is like you >owning a car and your transmission goes out and someone tells you that >anything is possible if you learn how to fix it and do it yourself.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Using external monitor for a secondary (virtual) desktop view

2013-12-07 Thread magicbanana
AMD CPUs do not have an integrated graphical chipset.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using external monitor for a secondary (virtual) desktop view

2013-12-07 Thread janprunk
Hi Magic Banana ! Mistakenly I entered 4.8 for Gnome, but it is actually Xfce 4.8 and Gnome 3.4 on toutatis, so my mistake. Regarding the CPU it is a "smpboot: CPU0: AMD E2-1800 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (fam: 14, model: 02, stepping: 00)" I was looking in the Gnome options at Syste

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hey jxself, can we get linux-generic-lts-raring and linux-generic-lts-saucy kernels?

2013-12-07 Thread dadix
I want to help Trisquel but nobody has time to teach a non-programmer user like me to do things which is bad because from what I see the more than 90% of Trisquel users are like me. So I put this topic https://trisquel.info/en/forum/package-helpers-video-full-tutorial-request but nobody ha

[Trisquel-users] Re : Using external monitor for a secondary (virtual) desktop view

2013-12-07 Thread magicbanana
I assume you first tried the obvious thing: unclick the related box in "System settings/Display". You happen to have an AMD video card. It is, among popular brands (i.e., along with Intel and nVidia), the one with the worst support by Linux-libre (some firmware blobs have never been replace

[Trisquel-users] Using external monitor for a secondary (virtual) desktop view

2013-12-07 Thread janprunk
Hello ! I have an issue using an external VGA monitor that is being hooked up to my Laptop. The distribution that I use is Trisquel "toutasis". I tried to set window view using LXDE, Xfce and Gnome, but it doesn't set them as I'd like to (some manuals say that it is doable in Gnome 4.12, bu

[Trisquel-users] Re : Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread magicbanana
We are talking about having a choice of kernels and/or CPU architectures to run our distribution. The Trisquel project never put some work into "taking away" those choices. It just never worked on them. Debian workes on them. That does not make Debian more free though. It just gives its users

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread shiretoko
You learned your text properly from rms. But maybe, sometimes questing things in a rational way is good. You can't messure freedom in dimensions of "how many options do I have" - that's right. But - here comes the point - if *someone* (not the laws of physics, not my financial limitations) ta

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread shiretoko
This "perfectly working" kernel is brandmarked with a name which doesn't convey the ideas of the free software movement. We are forced to mention (and in my view, promote) linux every time we talk about the operating system. We are forced to lead a completly useless name-fight we can never win

Re: [Trisquel-users] Artificial Intelligence Project

2013-12-07 Thread shiretoko
"We don't understand it because in order for you to create, let's say, a processor, you need to use much more "power" like, many "BRAINS" " No, it's definitly not the only issue. There are fundamental differences between the brain and a computer. This can cause for instance quantum mechanical e

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread quiliro
> Mind telling me why having different kernels and arquitechtures hurts free > software? Again, I don't see anyone complaining when they run Debian on > their tablet or e-book reader! That is because the person that uses those devices either does not value freedom that much or is migrating and in

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple guide to make happy a GNU user

2013-12-07 Thread quiliro
I will answer this one because I guess no one else shares this opinion. > And mind telling me how did Debian hurt the free software world? Lets start at the beggining: - The free software movement was born to give freedom to the user. - Debian gives choice, not freedom, to the user. - This hurts