Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 - User comments/tips/reguests thread?

2014-04-10 Thread mikko . viinamaki
That page suggests proprietary software, please don't link to such pages, thank you.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 - User comments/tips/reguests thread?

2014-04-10 Thread mindfulpessimist
I decided to try NetInstall on one of my many spare partitions and yes, it's a nice way of building a system according to one's needs. It's not exactly pretty, though. The Porteous site (http://build.porteus.org/) has an elegant tool for creating a personalized distro. I can't speak to the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Microsoft's .NET Foundation and open sourcing .NET

2014-04-10 Thread Andrew Roffey
t3g wrote: > I don't get what you are trying to show with that image. Those seem > like a list of existing technologies which may or may not be open > now. The hope with the foundation is that we can finally use free > software to build and deploy without worry. The image doesn't mention the .N

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread legimet . calc
Run "apt-cache show python 3.2" Result: same checksums. The packages.trisquel.info site is messed up, I reported an issue a while ago. (Some of trisquel's own packages don't even show up!)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Microsoft's .NET Foundation and open sourcing .NET

2014-04-10 Thread tegskywalker
I don't get what you are trying to show with that image. Those seem like a list of existing technologies which may or may not be open now. The hope with the foundation is that we can finally use free software to build and deploy without worry.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread legimet . calc
Do you rebuild all source packages? Do you trust Ubuntu's binary packages? Try looking at the checksums of some binary packages that Trisquel hasn't modified. Compare with Ubuntu.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread tegskywalker
It looks like some files match like http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/amd64/python3/download and http://packages.trisquel.info/toutatis-updates/amd64/python3/download but then http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/amd64/python3.2/download and http://packages.trisquel.info/tout

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread jason
"So you have to trust upstream as well." No you don't. Source code is still available and the package can be modified and recompiled if necessary.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread legimet . calc
No they don't. Look at the checksums.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread leny2010
Trisquel recompiles (aka rebuilds) all the packages from source on Trisquel servers. You can tell this because all the packages are signed with just the Trisquel key and 'apt-key list' only has the Trisquel key showing. Yes Trisquel has to trust that upstream hasn't put anything in the publi

Re: [Trisquel-users] Need Help Switching From XP to GNU/Linux

2014-04-10 Thread catfishagain
I've put Trisquel Mini on an old NEC Pentium 4 and it's fantastic. I did install Abrowser though as Midori is a very light browser. Make the switch Dave you won't look back. Dave in UK

Re: [Trisquel-users] Need Help Switching From XP to GNU/Linux

2014-04-10 Thread onpon4
Legimet wrote: > it's mostly for checking for Windows viruses. Correction: only for Windows viruses. I suppose it could detect GNU/Linux viruses, but viruses not being a real threat for us, there's no point in that. The main use of ClamAV is if you're worried about infecting a Windows compu

Re: [Trisquel-users] Need Help Switching From XP to GNU/Linux

2014-04-10 Thread legimet . calc
For Firefox, use Abrowser, as onpon4 said. The only differences are the branding, an addons site that only lists free (as in freedom) addons, and improved default settings (for privacy). Trisquel includes LibreOffice, which was forked from OpenOffice. For videos and audio, VLC is really good

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread legimet . calc
Even if you trust Ruben completely, Trisquel does not rebuild many of the packages from Ubuntu. For example, apt-cache show openssl gives a checksum for the latest deb of 843af273766056f25469e9915ddd2567. Compare that with what's here. So you have to trust upstream as well.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread shiretoko
If Debian is compromised by the NSA (I highly doubt that this is true) it can be helped; developers all over the world can check the code over and over again and with a huge effort we can lock nsa out again; that's the difference to non-free software; so this is no argument against free softwa

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread jason
"You mean like debian?" No - They said one with a "pro-Free Software policy." That precludes the Debian Project (note I'm referring to the Project, not the distro.) The Project's policies at best neutral, seeing no problem with their free and non-free stuff sitting side by side.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread jason
Knowing Rubén personally, I trust him. Granted you don't know me so take this for what it's worth.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread bm-2cwce5abrzcyn1hzwsb33z4btaxgamtogq
Couldn't help myself noticing the irony. So we believe in a conspiracy. And everybody is out to get the poor user. And Google is evil. And NSA protects Google or the other way around. So we make a video. We're going to distribute it through a Google service, a service that watermarks the file

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread bm-2cwce5abrzcyn1hzwsb33z4btaxgamtogq
Thanks for the link. I never knew Poul-Henning Kamp exists. But he has a clear mind. And an admirable focus power. I mean the questions were asked by complete morons. No wonder OpenSSL is a mess, a painter would be more qualified to do C code than a CS major with ethics and understanding the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Need Help Switching From XP to GNU/Linux

2014-04-10 Thread onpon4
Well, you should be fine with more of the default software, then. :) Actually, LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice that was made back when Oracle controlled OpenOffice, so you'll find it familiar. Just a couple tips: * Trisquel's version of Firefox is called "Abrowser". It's called that bec

Re: [Trisquel-users] Need Help Switching From XP to GNU/Linux

2014-04-10 Thread dhunt
One of my machines is a Dell Inspiron, with similar hardware resources to yours, Dave In NY; it runs the full Trisquel 6.0.1 quite well, for tasks other than audio editing, large source code builds and high-bandwidth video watching/conferencing. I use the included apps, plus vlc for media pl

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread stask
In late 2010 OpenBSD experienced something similar. It is interesting to look at the details of that case. Awful lot of connections but apparently nothing big came of it or so they all say. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129236621626462&w=2 A few days later... http://lwn.net/Articles/42

Re: [Trisquel-users] Minnowboard

2014-04-10 Thread stask
Realizing that I do not understand this stuff, which is why I posted the question above, I note that Intel's video says uefi secure boot can be disabled http://youtu.be/eAnlhkbMang?t=20s I'm not sure that makes any difference to your discussion but I wanted to mention it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Minnowboard

2014-04-10 Thread Michał Masłowski
CSM doesn't do the hard and machine-specific work that's needed here. http://uefidk.intel.com/content/minnowboard-uefi-firmware-eula states that "The CPU and chipset initialization code is currently provided as a binary module" which is consistent with usual Intel support for coreboot (MRC, FSP) a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread shiretoko
"And, since I don't personally know any of the people responsible for other smaller distros, that have "benevolent dictators for life", in front of them, I don't know if I can trust them, or not." You mean like trisquel? "For these reasons, only the distributions made by non-profit organizat

Re: [Trisquel-users] Need Help Switching From XP to GNU/Linux

2014-04-10 Thread davexpro
Thanks, onpon4. I was considering downloading Trisquel Mini, but wasn't sure if it would perform as well. I could certainly use whatever software Trisquel includes, as I don't mind learning how to use something different or new. I'm a pretty down to basics user and not into heavy gaming. I tr

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread fernando . negro
Do the big corporate entities, in control of the US government, have an interest in infiltrating and subverting every Free Software-related organization? (Most definitely, they do.) Does the US government have a habit of infiltrating and sabotaging organizations opposed to the corporate int

Re: [Trisquel-users] Need Help Switching From XP to GNU/Linux

2014-04-10 Thread davexpro
Thanks, elodie. I agree.

[Trisquel-users] Invisible menus in LibreOffice

2014-04-10 Thread bm-2cwce5abrzcyn1hzwsb33z4btaxgamtogq
It's the first time I use this laptop with LibreOffice, or any office pack. And to my surprise, parts of the menus are invisible. They do work, but it's a pain to guess. I noticed Trisquel still uses the 3rd generation. So I got to the PPA and upgraded to the latest in the 4th generation. So

Re: [Trisquel-users] Need Help Switching From XP to GNU/Linux

2014-04-10 Thread onpon4
That'll be enough RAM to run Trisquel Mini (LXDE), though it won't be perfectly smooth necessarily (you should give yourself plenty of swap and use lightweight applications, especially a lightweight web browser). I also know from experience that the Pentium 4 is able to run LXDE just fine (my

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread bm-2cwce5abrzcyn1hzwsb33z4btaxgamtogq
Haven't watched the video yet, so I have no idea what Assange is saying, but the wordpress.com guy is a typical basket case. Conspiracy theory all the way - almost entirely noise.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Need Help Switching From XP to GNU/Linux

2014-04-10 Thread bm-2cwce5abrzcyn1hzwsb33z4btaxgamtogq
Yea, twice the RAM would help a lot. The more the merrier. But keep in mind that other things might malfunction.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What to do when Trisquel freezes?

2014-04-10 Thread bm-2cwce5abrzcyn1hzwsb33z4btaxgamtogq
I have to hook up a second laptop to the serial output of the docking station. But yea, never did that.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What to do when Trisquel freezes?

2014-04-10 Thread bm-2cwce5abrzcyn1hzwsb33z4btaxgamtogq
I have a small pump for that. But that is always good to have in mind.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Need Help Switching From XP to GNU/Linux

2014-04-10 Thread davexpro
Typo correction: I meant "Trisquel". Couldn't find the 'edit' button.

[Trisquel-users] Need Help Switching From XP to GNU/Linux

2014-04-10 Thread davexpro
Hey Techies, Greetings to all! David here in NY. I'm so wanting to switch my OS from XP to GNU/Linux. I have a somewhat ancient Gateway desktop PC I bought back in '04 which I mostly use to surf the web and to download things of interest. I'm just not looking to spend on a new PC or laptop

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread holger . beetz
@opon4: I suggest you watch this video from the BSD guy at FOSDEM: http://video.fosdem.org/2014/Janson/Sunday/NSA_operation_ORCHESTRA_Annual_Status_Report.webm Then think about the more recent OpenSSL bugs Debian might not be "owned" in the sense that they belong to the NSA but there are a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread onpon4
This looks like FUD to me.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Minnowboard

2014-04-10 Thread gnufreeme
"We used open source software as much as possible." Non-free software coming from intel? Shocker. This seems to be another of those times where you get exited looking into the promise of something but maddeningly there is some non-freedeom included with no easy way to skirt it. Nice to hav

[Trisquel-users] Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

2014-04-10 Thread debianlinux
here the link: http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/08/julian-assange-debian-is-owned-by-the-nsa/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Whatever happened to...

2014-04-10 Thread arielxgbarton
They should have called their thing GNU/Linux Voice.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help With My Think Pinguin Wireless USB Adapter

2014-04-10 Thread mikko . viinamaki
The bash or knock theory sounds plausible. All electronics are total junk these days.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Weird graphics all of a sudden

2014-04-10 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Alt + right click on element > move If you use compiz you also need to add was it shift.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help With My Think Pinguin Wireless USB Adapter

2014-04-10 Thread arielxgbarton
Apart from those two things, what else could it be?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Weird graphics all of a sudden

2014-04-10 Thread arielxgbarton
I am having a slightly differnet problem - on the task bar/menu, it should be that the start menu is first, then the icons, then the open programs, however it is the open programs first, then the icons (shortcuts to programs, then the start menu. How can I switch it around?