Re: [Trisquel-users] First development alpha iso images of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas"

2016-11-29 Thread mir9001
I am so excited for this!

Re: [Trisquel-users] First development alpha iso images of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas"

2016-11-29 Thread pedrosilva
"We can also add some new programs, but keeping in mind not to bloat the system. We do not preinstall two applications that do the same thing." I'd love to see SolveSpace included: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/SolveSpace http://solvespace.com/index.pl A GPLv3, stable, tiny yet powerful, easy

Re: [Trisquel-users] First development alpha iso images of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas"

2016-11-29 Thread dahunt
Thanks for releasing this testing live image! On a running instance, I added the accessibility-dev ppa and installed Orca screen reader. To do this, I, first, installed and started a service called espeakup; this gives console speech and screen review. Once the accessibility packages were

[Trisquel-users] Libre game funding Hexoshi

2016-11-29 Thread bernardlprf
For all metroid fans and libre software fans alike Someone is trying to fund a metroid like under GPLv3+ named hexoshi, it could be nice or not but it's also an occasion to fund a complete game under GPLv3. I helped a bit if you want to see that happens please help them financially or direct

Re: [Trisquel-users] Updates for Trisquel

2016-11-29 Thread trevormetivier
Funny. GNULINUX is just now beginning to catch up to what Sun was doing 15 years ago with jails and other Solaris specific features. The whole idea of GNULINUX is to be a knockoff of UNIX. And it is a fragmented, broken, and poorly executed one at that. The Sun license, based on self pr

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-11-29 Thread trevormetivier
gnu needs linux more than linux needs gnu

Re: [Trisquel-users] Security updates?

2016-11-29 Thread trevormetivier
and a flaw in the almighty GNU debugger bings down the 4th box. This is a good opportunity for me to write patches and then close my source. Because that's freedom to choose whether or not to be forced to share code.

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread greatgnu
>Just done that now but...: ->brutal08@Dragon:~$ sudo apt-get build-dep mit-scheme-dbg Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Build-Depends dependency for mit-scheme-dbg cannot be satisfied because the package mit-scheme cannot be found It i

Re: [Trisquel-users] First development alpha iso images of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas"

2016-11-29 Thread antonlopez
Right on!!! Gracias, Rubén.

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread trevormetivier
progress is slow. ive encountered a new issue. this is going to require some research. Best of luck Takumi. I will try again later.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mega Sync Cloud

2016-11-29 Thread greatgnu
tx for megatools, it might be useful. I like plowshare to download (and upload) to several file sharing websites (mediafire, dfiles, rapidgator, keepshare etc).

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread trevormetivier
from the microcode directory run ./configure and ./Setup.sh then cd back to scheme/src and try make compile-microcode then type make mine is compiling now ill update when it finishes.

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread trevormetivier
from source, not portable c I rememedied the error you were getting Takumi, by doing this: as root (or preface with sudo) apt-get install m4 then go back to the unpacked folder for scheme-{version}/src and try ./configure make this got me past the error you mention, but now I'm troubleshoot

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 alpha iso has been released!

2016-11-29 Thread mkl80
Great news! Our appeals have made result! Great!

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread mkl80
there is a Makefile: brutal08@Dragon:~/src/mit-scheme-9.2$ ls changelog.txt doc etc ->Makefile

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread mkl80
Done, but nope gives the very same error again! many thanks anyway

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 8 alpha iso has been released!

2016-11-29 Thread pinmaritim
At last ! Thank you Quidam this i great news !

Re: [Trisquel-users] What other forums so you use and recommend?

2016-11-29 Thread mkl80
This is so stupid. If you not call it Gnu/Linux you will burn in hell forever. Am I the only one (plus spooky) to see the pathetic of this debate? All the rest say "Amen"??? I ask a question and somebody comes with a note: "it is not Linux is Gnu/Linux!!!" And that somebody doesn't answer th

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread trevormetivier
You are installing as root, right Takumi? I'm stumped... I'll setup a vm and try the install and see if I'm able to make any headway.

[Trisquel-users] Libreboot on R400 no network connection possible

2016-11-29 Thread baheto
Hi, I flashed a Thinkpad R400 successfully with libreboot 20160907. Everything is fine, I see the Grub Screen at the beginning and a "Ubuntu" starts from Stick or the encrypted HDD (I want to migrate to Trisquel later). When the system is ready and I plug in the network cable or try to conn

Re: [Trisquel-users] AbiWord: Times New Roman?

2016-11-29 Thread onpon4
> Use generic font family names (like "serif", "mono"/"monospace", etc.). Font requirements are usually there for consistent spacing, not for stylistic reasons.

[Trisquel-users] Please contritube to Trisquel 8!

2016-11-29 Thread sitereg
I created a wiki for the Flidas release issues, it can be a starting point for those who like to contribute to Trisquel to help it release sooner. https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/flidas-release-issues

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 alpha iso has been released!

2016-11-29 Thread sitereg
It is MATE 1.12.1

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 alpha iso has been released!

2016-11-29 Thread sitereg
This is the screenshot.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 alpha iso has been released!

2016-11-29 Thread mappack
It looks nice! Is the desktop environment still based on GNOME Flashback or was something else chosen now?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 alpha iso has been released!

2016-11-29 Thread mappack
Great news!

[Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 alpha iso has been released!

2016-11-29 Thread sitereg
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/ Thank you Ruben.

[Trisquel-users] First development alpha iso images of Trisquel 8.0 "Flidas"

2016-11-29 Thread Rubén Rodríguez
Preliminary steps for the development of the next release are finished, including continuous-integration build jails, a Linux-Libre 4.4 based kernel, a bootstapable system and now functional Live images available at http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/ The image has many of the basic componen

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to see temp of [AMD Athlon 5150 APU with Radeon R3] on [Gigabyte AM1M-S2H]

2016-11-29 Thread onpon4
Some hardware requires "sudo sensors-detect" to be run before the sensors can be read. I would try that.

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Hi all! :) I'm not really a programmer, also but as far as my little experience goes, I can explain the following to all of you that are starting to learn things now: Don't worry, most of the time, errors are useful to understand what is being done (or what was supposed to be done, or wasn't done

[Trisquel-users] How to see temp of [AMD Athlon 5150 APU with Radeon R3] on [Gigabyte AM1M-S2H]

2016-11-29 Thread riveravaldezmail
Hi, I'm trying to check and keep an eye on the temperature of this PC (Trisquel Mini) but even with lm-sensors installed (after execute sensors-detect) can't obtain the micro's temp (hddtemp, by the other hand, works perfectly for, well, HDD-temp ;) ). $ uname -a Linux user 3.13.0-101-lowla

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread mkl80
I guess I will try to buil MIT/GNU Scheme from portable C, although they warn that takes a lot of time, but I will try, if not today, tomorrow I will! Thanks

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread shiretoko
A command that is really useful when it comes to compiling is "apt-file". If you get an error message like "blabla.h not found", you just enter "apt-file search blabla.h" and you get all the packages that contain the missing file. Then install one of those packages with apt-get, and you have fi

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread mkl80
I didn't do the "make all" is part of system process. All I've done was the: -> make compile-microcode command, which gave me the mentioned error. And anyway with the command: -> make , gives exactly the same error: (cd microcode && make all) make[1]: Entering directory `/home/brutal08/src/mit-sch

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread onpon4
"make all" isn't something you normally do. The typical command is just "make", and as far as I can tell, that's the appropriate command in this case as well.

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread mkl80
Sorry but how do I manage to correct that, if you know. more generally: how do I put the missing flag on a file. thanks

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread mkl80
Just done that now but...: ->brutal08@Dragon:~$ sudo apt-get build-dep mit-scheme-dbg Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Build-Depends dependency for mit-scheme-dbg cannot be satisfied because the package mit-scheme cannot be found many

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread trevormetivier
Sounds like the Makefile doesn't have a "make all" flag.

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread mkl80
The error that gets me in the: -> make compile-microcode process is the as follows: (cd microcode && make all) make[1]: Entering directory `/home/brutal08/src/mit-scheme-9.2/src/microcode' make[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/brutal08/src/mit-scheme-

[Trisquel-users] Security updates?

2016-11-29 Thread trevormetivier
Are there any plans to update the severe security flaws in Trisquel 7? I've broken root on 3 of 4 Trisquel boxes on my network using very old, well known exploits. Don't even install sudo . DNS is VERY obediant...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hexoshi - New Metroid-like game I'm developing is being crowdfunded

2016-11-29 Thread onpon4
The campaign is live! https://www.crowdsupply.com/onpon4/hexoshi

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread mkl80
Hello again. It's time for me to explain my episode. But first of all I would like to make a side question: how do you put that pink-forcode-frame in your statements? I would like to use it in the future, in code related posts that I would do. Explaining my situation: I had installed mit-sche

Re: [Trisquel-users] The GPL does not respect your freedom

2016-11-29 Thread trevormetivier
"Yet another boring trollo wasting his time.." Never heard a better description of RMS. Or did you mean to call me a troll? 0k@y, I'm @ trol1, i'm up in y0ur buff3r sp@c3 corrupting y0ur stax! LNL.org LNL's Not Linux!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Gnuinos

2016-11-29 Thread aitor_czr
Appearently, the headers in the C program are missing due to the symbols >< They are: stdio.h stdlib.h pthread.h Cheers, Aitor.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Gnuinos

2016-11-29 Thread aitor_czr
Sorry B50D, i didn't answer you !! You are right, there is not network connection in the screenshot, but the icon changed the status from disconnected to connected. The following C program should solve this issue: #include #include #include void ping(){ system("ping 8.8.8.8"); } void s

Re: [Trisquel-users] Asus KFSN 4-DRE at the end of november 2016

2016-11-29 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Don't be too cheap with the power supply. Bad power makes for strange effects and could fry your other parts. As for what brand to select or avoid my knowledge is ancient. You'll need a heatsink and probably also a fan. Unless you're building something that creates very little heat. A CPU w

Re: [Trisquel-users] Micro$oft releases new operating system. And it isn't windows.

2016-11-29 Thread onpon4
This video never mentions Microsoft, and it's obviously a parody of Mac OS, not Windows.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Waiting for Trisquel 8 (Flidas)

2016-11-29 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
I think this is a very good idea. This will help Trisquels 9, 10, 11... etc. Fingers crossed.

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Usual compile on GNU/Linux is very simple:./configure make

Re: [Trisquel-users] The GPL does not respect your freedom

2016-11-29 Thread greatgnu
>no wonder "gnu"/linux cant create an OS, let alone a functioning one. Yet another boring trollo wasting his time..

Re: [Trisquel-users] Micro$oft releases new operating system. And it isn't windows.

2016-11-29 Thread greatgnu
Articles, music, videos and generic humor usually go in the Troll Lounge, which is indeed the troll hole -> https://trisquel.info/en/forum/troll-lounge

Re: [Trisquel-users] why in gnu/linux is so super-complicated/super-annoying to install something from source... God!

2016-11-29 Thread greatgnu
He's probably missing dependencies. OP: do a sudo apt-get build-dep mit-scheme Then follow instructions for compiling. https://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/documentation/mit-scheme-user/Unix-Installation.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] The GPL does not respect your freedom

2016-11-29 Thread onpon4
> some of them are so free you add your own code and make it not free anymore if you want to. This is a total strawman. No one thinks that copyleft licenses are "more free" than permissive licenses. I already said this: copyleft isn't an ideal. It's a pragmatic strategy to counter the unfai

[Trisquel-users] Re : The GPL does not respect your freedom

2016-11-29 Thread lcerf
All popular free software under a permissive license ends up in proprietary software programs. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_products_based_on_FreeBSD#Commercial_products for instance. Many of those "products" are vastly more popular than FreeBSD. Yet, many of them would have

Re: [Trisquel-users] Updates for Trisquel

2016-11-29 Thread nicolasmaia
Sun chose a terrible license for ZFS and as a result it is legally incompatible with any GNU/Linux distro. A more appropriate choice would be Btrfs, I suppose.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Updates for Trisquel

2016-11-29 Thread lcerf
See https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/full-disk-encryption-install

Re: [Trisquel-users] The GPL does not respect your freedom

2016-11-29 Thread infinityfallen
Spooky, the evidence you have provided after OnPon4's comment to support your argument is flawed. "It's free as long (as) you don't wish to make it actually useful in any way" This is extremely confusing and seems to lack any coherent basis in fact. Potentially it could be argued that the GPL