Re: [Trisquel-users] Cannot install python-pip, python-typing

2019-12-22 Thread mason
> With pip such a fundamental part of Python Pip is not a fundamental part of Python, > it upsets me that this is not free, that the repositories it uses are > not free but it's a common way to distribute Python packages, so it's unfortunate that the PyPi repository contains non-free software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Cannot install python-pip, python-typing

2019-12-22 Thread red_hydra
Thanks, I installed it to test Tribler (which for whatever reason installed but did not load the GUI) and then I promptly uninstalled it with its associated *potentially* proprietary-enabling dependencies (pip)! I may try it in a Debian Qubes VM and I'm sure I'll have better luck there.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Ubuntu and not Debian?

2019-12-22 Thread red_hydra
gNewSense is a FSF endorsed distro that is based on Debian. It is currently being developed actively again for the first time in years. It's website is here: http://www.gnewsense.org/ Personally I don't really get the Ubuntu hype. I much prefer Debian as well though Trisquel is an

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why does Trisquel take to much time to release a new version?

2019-12-22 Thread red_hydra
Given that updates take time to process, isn't it possible that important security updates aren't passed through immediately because their code needs to be reviewed? Could this be regarded as a security trade-off for the freedom that Trisquel provides? If so wouldn't a default Debian install

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why does Trisquel take to much time to release a new version?

2019-12-22 Thread svhaab
> apt install apertium I did not know you can install apertium and assumed apertium sends your text to a server.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Cannot install python-pip, python-typing

2019-12-22 Thread mason
> I needed it to compile Tribler and ZeroNet. ZeroNet does not seem to actually depend on pip. The README is just recommending that you install ZeroNet's dependencies from the PyPi repository using pip. As long as you make sure that all of those dependencies are free (and all of their

[Trisquel-users] Re : Cannot install python-pip, python-typing

2019-12-22 Thread lcerf
From https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/all/python-pip-whl/download and https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/all/python-pip/download respectively you can download pyton-pip-whl.deb and python-pip.dev. You can install them, in that order, by double-clicking on the files or, if

Re: [Trisquel-users] Cannot install python-pip, python-typing

2019-12-22 Thread red_hydra
I needed it to compile Tribler and ZeroNet. I do NOT want non-free software on my computer, but since Tribler and ZeroNet are free I'd imagine they wouldn't use pip to install any non-free software with pip anyways so I don't think it would do any harm as long as I kept an eye on it. I do

Re: [Trisquel-users] Cannot install python-pip, python-typing

2019-12-22 Thread alexander . pitsch
When programming with python in general, you might want to have multiple versions of python available - and even if not required by your developing work, you still might want to separate the system python from the python version you use for programming. An extremely handy tool for this is