Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-21 Thread andrew
YHBT YHL HND - I was too

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-20 Thread amenex
leny2010 said: > Read the links in my last two posts and you will find where the shutdown & boot messages are stored on disk. > Nothing meaningful to your diagnosis occurs after the disks are umounted in shutdown. OK; I tried [sudo find /var/log -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sudo zgrep

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-18 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
In a similar vein perhaps worth trying issudo shutdown -H (Note the H is capitalized!)

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-18 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
I remember that a fix to some computers not powering off after you tell them to shut down is to add a acpi_osi=X parameter to Linux in grub. Apparently X can be *leave blank*, Linux, Windows. Remember to update-grub after you change the config. Perhaps we could induce this condition.

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-18 Thread andrew
Read the links in my last two posts and you will find where the shutdown & boot messages are stored on disk. Nothing meaningful to your diagnosis occurs after the disks are umounted in shutdown.

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-17 Thread amenex
Following the suggestion to video the action, I managed to capture several different sets of shutdown blinkies, to wit: 1. Press to continue K98mdadm/etc/rc0.d/K98mdadm-waitidle.bak: 16 : read: arg count Could not acquire the 'org.freedesktop.ModemManager1" service name 2.

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-17 Thread jason
"So the shutdown blinkies remain as elusive as ever." I don't know why you say that: From what you've describe this all seems very standard to me. If you recall one of the things that happens during shutdown is all running processes are sent SIGTERM (To quote from the GNU C Library manual:

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-17 Thread jason
"my video camera won't stay focused on the screen." Try turning off automatic focus. Focus it manually first, and then do a shut down once the focus is perfect.

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-16 Thread jason
"Something in the system is trying to tell me what's going on just before shutdown" No, it's not trying to tell you something. It's not alive. :) Rather, it is executing it's pre-programmed steps for brining the system down which involves things like SIGTERM to running processes (the

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-16 Thread amenex
Following leny2010's lead, hitting the ESC key during shutdown/restart does indeed lift the Plymouth veil from the ephemeral shutdown messages, but they're still displayed unacceptably briefly. If only there was another key to pause that shutdown.

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-16 Thread greatgnu
you are wrong jxself. **he** is alive.

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-15 Thread andrew
DDG: 'Where are the ubuntu boot messages https://askubuntu.com/questions/91286/how-to-see-log-to-find-a-boot-problem DDG: 'Where are the ubuntu shutdown messages https://askubuntu.com/questions/58625/where-is-the-shutdown-log And man service e.g. sudo service --status-all Should be what

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-15 Thread andrew
But meddle with the Trisquel boot process rather than running services AT YOUR OWN RISK.

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-14 Thread amenex
Trying to have it both ways ?: Criticism #1. I didn't look it up before complaining ... Criticism #2. I'm complaining because I can't look it up ... Nevertheless, here's my wish: Something in the system is trying to tell me what's going on just before shutdown, but the messages that indicate

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-13 Thread andrew
1. Those messages are as Magic Banana says in the file /var/log/messages , look at them with sudo less /var/log/messages in Terminal 2. If you want more detailed messages use either of the commands apt-get or aptitude with the appropriate parameters. Again from Terminal. You might find

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-13 Thread amenex
1. Shutdown messages: Four years ago, Magic Banana replied in http://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-45-messages-shutdown: > Indeed, taking a look at /var/log/messages (which is timestamped) is a good idea. > You can read the logs from a graphical utility in the System/Administration menu.

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-13 Thread amenex
1. leny2010 and Magic Banana suggested looking in /var/log/messages, but there is no such file in my Trisquel 7 installation; is "dmesg" another word for "messages" ? Anyway, dmesg doesn't capture those shutdown blinkies, either. 2. I tried "sudo script -c "shutdown -h now"

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-13 Thread andrew
A DDG search on 'Where is /var/log/messages in ubuntu trusty' turns up https://askubuntu.com/questions/51265/where-is-var-log-messages Which says it all goes to syslog, always did just htere's no longer any /v/l/messages. Obviously, until the disks are umounted as Magic Banana says. What

[Trisquel-users] "Johnny Carson flashes" are frustrating problem analyses

2015-11-12 Thread amenex
Whenever Johny Carson did his raincoat-flashing routine on late night TV, he always turned away from the camera ... Recently I've been pleading for the following logs: 1. A shutdown log. It's no longer a bunch of benign messages that appear for fractions of a second; they might be helpful,