Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-27 Thread dguthrie
4... yes. We need to all relax with a cup of gunpowder green tea, and let all sadness thoughts exit our bile ducts.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-26 Thread calmstorm
1: he already has from what I know 2: Pretty sure that is a non-issue and a mood point considering its success. 3: I see no problem with that 4: please cool it man... it is like you are super stressed right now.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-26 Thread Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
Ali, thanks for your arguments. Schematics don't make a hardware free-design hardware, as PaulK has stated and as Richard's essay explains. It's the PCB design sources. Schematics are usually PDF files. I doubt any of the people who now hold the EOMA68-A20 computer boards would disobey the

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-26 Thread Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
On 26.08.2016 19:05, Josh Branning wrote: > Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic > > Maybe they /do/ intend to release the CAD files when they say they will. > In which case, has it occurred to you that the kind of things you are > saying: > > A) May look a bit silly once (and if) they're released. They

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-26 Thread Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
On 26.08.2016 21:48, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) wrote: > It seems the problem is the meaning of “libre” in terms of unreleased > hardware/software. EOMA68 certainly is aligned with libre culture and > significant for freedom because of its modularity standard. It also is > GPL-compliant like any

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-26 Thread pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
(I forgot to reply to all lists… Sorry.) It seems the problem is the meaning of “libre” in terms of unreleased hardware/software. EOMA68 certainly is aligned with libre culture and significant for freedom because of its modularity standard. It also is GPL-compliant like any unreleased product,

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-26 Thread dguthrie
it's not the same thing... purism was a scam... i do not know if this is. but if it is, well, they fooled us good.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
On 26.08.2016 05:22, Christopher Waid wrote: > The project is claiming to be a libre hardware/software project, not > that everything has been released yet. Then it's not a libre hardware project yet! And need I remind you that outside your organization there is an organization/user of an EOMA68

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
On 26.08.2016 05:16, Christopher Waid wrote: > On 2016-08-25 06:26 PM, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic wrote: >> On 25.08.2016 15:47, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic wrote: >>> On 25.08.2016 15:25, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: This issue of "you said it is 'libre' but I prove it's not", and even the

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread calmstorm
He must be very paranoid then that all hell is going to break loose or that Luke is going to pull a Purism... Not that anything was pure about purism quite the opposite... His paranoia though sounds absurd to me given so much support from different leaders in the fsf. Leah from libreboot

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread calmstorm
I know, I read his description once on this site. I really though hope he is wrong. about what he is talking about.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread onpon4
Please don't misinterpret. I do not think tct deserves additional credibility by virtue of being a competitor to Think Penguin, and a competitor to Luke. He's not wrong, but he's saying things that are very misleading. The fact is that the PCB CAD files for the A20 computer card have not

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread onpon4
tct is the guy behind Tehnoetic.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread calmstorm
I understand you don't like the claim because it isn't true yet, but if thinkpenguin is supporting these devices I think it is safe to say, that they can be trusted. He wouldn't be supporting The eoma otherwise. Nor would the fsf... I guess I don't understand why you are so much against

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread onpon4
Context: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2016-08/msg00052.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
On 26.08.2016 01:33, Paul Kocialkowski wrote: > Le vendredi 26 août 2016 à 01:26 +0300, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic a écrit : >> On 25.08.2016 15:47, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic wrote: >>> >>> On 25.08.2016 15:25, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: This issue of "you said it is 'libre' but I prove

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
On 25.08.2016 15:47, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic wrote: > On 25.08.2016 15:25, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: >> This issue of "you said it is 'libre' but I prove it's not", and even >> the issue regarding the older publication on ThinkPenguin's site, can be >> easily solved by changing terms/words

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
On 25.08.2016 15:25, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: > This issue of "you said it is 'libre' but I prove it's not", and even > the issue regarding the older publication on ThinkPenguin's site, can be > easily solved by changing terms/words accordingly there. There's no need > to make everyone mad at