Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
This issue of "you said it is 'libre' but I prove it's not", and even the issue regarding the older publication on ThinkPenguin's site, can be easily solved by changing terms/words accordingly there. There's no need to make everyone mad at each other. For example, we can publish updates on these p

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread onpon4
I'm just going to clarify a couple of points, since these two posts ended up in a separate thread: 1. tct is complaining about the lack of PCB CAD files for the computer card (which are not provided as of this time, as the campaign page explains under the "A Libre Approach" section). 2. t

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread calmstorm
Very insightful +1

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread dguthrie
someone downvoted you. :-)

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread calmstorm
People have done it before, and they will most certainly do it again... so idk I just shrug at the idea.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread dguthrie
heh, someone upvoted you again so you now on 0. guilty person?

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread calmstorm
meh

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread calmstorm
I would be surprised of thinkpenguin would support someone like that.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread megver83
where are the proves?

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread onpon4
tct has been lumping together criticism of Think Penguin's catalog with his criticism of the EOMA68 campaign. I can't say I know why he is doing this.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
On 26.08.2016 04:03, André Silva wrote: > Hi guys, i let you know that our url about EOMA68 news has been changed > [0] to fix misleading information there too. > > [0]:https://www.parabola.nu/news/new-ryf-seeking-hardware-crowdfunding-project-with-parabola-pre-installed/ That's a good thing. Oh,

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread calmstorm
If your saying where is the proof, that is my point. There is very little evidence and its misleading evidence in full.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread calmstorm
I am not sure either, I think he just has a vendetta against them or just has some sort of grudge...

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-25 Thread Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
On 26.08.2016 06:22, John Sullivan wrote > What this *should* be is a discussion among people on the same side to > refine text and messaging such that it is accurate, approachable, and > effective. Please make it that. I believe your or other FSF staff member's comments on the points raised here

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-26 Thread Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
On 26.08.2016 12:46, Paul Kocialkowski wrote: > Le jeudi 25 août 2016 à 23:22 -0400, John Sullivan a écrit : >> Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic writes: >> Below are more attempts of ThinkPenguin to brainwash people. >> >> This stops now on this list. ThinkPenguin is not deliberately attempting >> to brain

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-26 Thread dguthrie
Capitalist free-for-all has turned friend into foe

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-26 Thread dguthrie
meh they downvoted us... somewhere somebody is either very very miffed, or cracking up with troll-laughter.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-26 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
My first attempt was to discuss and suggest better wordings for both older and upcoming publications. I didn't intend to make accusations and such. This is why I sent several messages here suggesting both "parties" of the discussion to simply analise the issue and, if needed, correct not only the

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-26 Thread Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
Thank you, Ali. I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my call and share your opinion on the libreplanet-discuss mailing list. On 26.08.2016 16:28, Ali Razeen wrote: > If this is true in the libre hardware world, I follow your logic, but I'm not sure there is an exact analogy libre sof

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-26 Thread Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
On 26.08.2016 19:27, Ali Razeen wrote: > I follow your argument but to make sure we’re on the same page, let me try to > rephrase it in my own words so that you can agree or disagree. I believe you > claim that we cannot say that the EOMA68 is “libre hardware from the > beginning” because we hav

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-26 Thread Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic
On 26.08.2016 23:03, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote: > I have to disagree here. Comparing this to GPL violation is outrageous. You might be right and the parallelism I made is too extrapolated. Thanks for noting that. Tiberiu

Re: [Trisquel-users] [libreplanet-discuss] [Dev] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

2016-08-26 Thread calmstorm
Yep mhm...