Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

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Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-19 Thread chris
If anybody was holding off on donating to the Sonar Project its down to 30 hours to go! The project has reach near half its funding goal of just $20,000 USD. Consider a donation and make this project a reality.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-07 Thread Dave Hunt
Thanks; I'll try looking for lower quality. My experience is very consistent; that is, about the first 10 seconds of content, then silence, no matter how long I sit and wait.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-07 Thread onpon4
I've had a perfectly fine experience with Abrowser 18. Perhaps it was just buffering? Note that you will get better loading times if you choose the "normal" quality instead of the highest quality.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-07 Thread Dave Hunt
Given my recent experience with unplug and youtube, I cannot second this recommendation. In most attempts to stream a video, I get a maximum of 10 seconds of playback, then it just stops. There's a browser tab open, with nothing but 'videoplayback' as an 'mp4' video object. Cheers, D

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-07 Thread chris
Thanks for pointing that out. I did forget and am pretty sure I read this from your or others here before.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-07 Thread chris
Thanks for pointing that out. I did forget and am pretty sure I read this from your or others here before.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-07 Thread chris
I'm not sure the old model generally supported $10,000 license fees. At least not in USD dollars. Though the new subscription model certainly seems to think they can get away with it. Not quite sure how that is going to work. I'm guessing Microsoft will probably discount the subscription for

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-07 Thread Dave Hunt
I thought greasemonkey and linternamagica were free software? They're a browser extension and user script, respectively. -Dave On 02/07/2013 12:35 PM, onp...@gmail.com wrote: Remember, Chris, that YouTube always requires nonfree software, namely the nonfree Javascript. To really watch w

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-07 Thread onpon4
Remember, Chris, that YouTube always requires nonfree software, namely the nonfree Javascript. To really watch without nonfree software, you need to download the video with something like UnPlug (a Firefox extension which I really recommend for this; it's really easy, and you can also stream

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-07 Thread tegskywalker
He is well spoken does make a lot of good points about the need for these tools to be free software. He does bring to light another problem where a software company develops a piece of software, gets selfish by charging like $10,000 per license, and therefore is out of the reach of the averag

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-06 Thread chris
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/262604?c=activity He goes on to explain the value of free software for anybody who is questioning his motivation.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-06 Thread tegskywalker
Well if he does pull this off and is a success over time, then hopefully the hard work improving accessibility for Sonar gets pushed upstream to the Debians and the Fedoras and Archs. If it does, then good for him and his hard work wasn't in vain.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-05 Thread chris
The humorous part of all this is I'd normally be making the same general comment t3g is making about more collaboration and cooperation. Only this is probably an example of where it makes sense to produce a distribution specific to an audience for various reasons (of which others have express

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-05 Thread tegskywalker
I don't want you to think I am attacking the guy personally, which I am not. As for your reference to Trisquel, it is unique due to it being the first or one of the first of its kind to be based off of Ubuntu. You get the huge community code behind it plus a limitless amount of PPAs. I orig

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-05 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
On 13-02-05 03:45 PM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote: > On 13-02-05 12:43 AM, Dave Hunt wrote: >> [...] The accessibility features, found in Sonar, are part of the >> standard GNOME feature set. In the typical out-of-the-box GNOME >> setup, they're not enabled by default. [... > Actually, if it's based o

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-05 Thread ahj
What is wrong with you t3g? Of all the GNU/Linux distributions to dismiss, why would any sane person chose to dismiss Sonar? Sonar is pursuing a niche but very real demographic. Unfortunately, my guess is that most people who need technical accessibility are not aware of the benefits of G

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-05 Thread chris
Giving people control of certain aspects is really beneficial to moving things along. But besides that it'll probably be a lot easier for him to attracting funding. Particularly from sources that would not otherwise normally donate to a free software project/foundation/etc.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-05 Thread chris
Yea- I'm not terribly concerned with how he uses the funds. It isn't like he is out to hinder free software in any way and whatever is done should only help. He knows the problems, he is concerned, and regardless of what is done I'm sure freedom is at the tip of his mind. You have to start

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-05 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
On 13-02-05 12:43 AM, Dave Hunt wrote: > [...] The accessibility features, found in Sonar, are part of the > standard GNOME feature set. In the typical out-of-the-box GNOME > setup, they're not enabled by default. [... Actually, if it's based on Ubuntu they're part of the standard "Ubuntu's Gnom

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-05 Thread tegskywalker
I got my impression about this not being 100% free from the other comments about him being somewhat vague on the complete freedom of the distro. On top of that, he is creating a distro on the standard Ubuntu releases which the FSF and RMS himself do not approve. I don't mind Ubuntu, but I kno

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-04 Thread Dave Hunt
You are right that Jonathan isn't interested in locking anything down. The accessibility features, found in Sonar, are part of the standard GNOME feature set. In the typical out-of-the-box GNOME setup, they're not enabled by default. I find Sonar, in its current state, redundant, and do not

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-04 Thread chris
Where did you get this idea he was locking down the distribution? His whole reason for doing this is the exact opposite of that. Your pulling stuff out of the air again as far as I can see. I'm all for more cooperation although I don't see this benefiting or hurting Trisquel one bit. His goal

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-04 Thread Dave Hunt
If he goes it alone, accessibility could become better than that now offered by GNOME and the KDE accessibility bridge. I think he plans to use his foundation to fund accessibility developments and see that they get into the GNU/Linux ecosystem, not just stay in Sonar. Sonar is now a Ubuntu r

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-04 Thread chris
The big difference is he has control over every aspect of the project if he goes it alone. As good as Trisquel is accessibility wise it probably wouldn't ever achieve the level of accessibility that he envisions in this new distribution.

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-04 Thread tegskywalker
Sonar is a waste of time and effort. Why? There are already too many distros out there and instead of a whole new one to join the crowd, the money he gets should be spent on creating applications or improving the existing ones. When these applications are polished to his liking, the big pus

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-04 Thread Jason Self
" I inquired about funding the same work in Debian or Trisquel" Yeah, since he used to help with accessibility in Trisquel, why not continue doing that? It seems a waste to duplicate effort maintaining yet another distribution, especially if he was already helping with accessibility in Trisquel to

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-04 Thread Dave Hunt
Jonathan got accessibility into Trisquel 5.0, for which I am grateful! I was introduced to Trisquel and Jonathan at Software Freedom Day, I think it was in 2011. I'm thrilled that accessibility continues to be a priority!

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-04 Thread Dave Hunt
I don't think he plans for Sonar to be 100% free. The current releases are respins of Ubuntu and Debian Testing. I wish he had chosen Trisquel as his base. Perhaps he decided that building a distro that will work on more hardware, out of the box, is an acceptable compromise, since it will make

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-04 Thread Dave Hunt
Thank you for mentioning Sonar Project! I'm a monthly donor to the Accessible Computing Foundation. I also contribute to the Accessible Freedom wiki, a distribution-independent source for information on GNU/Linux and accessibility. So far, we have some help pages on getting started with Tris

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-04 Thread ahj
>It doesn't say if he plans for Sonar to be 100% free though. Mr Mr. Nadeau has worked with Mr. Rodríguez on accessibility in Trisquel in the past. He's also worked as an intern at the FSF, and in the video he says Sonar will be free as in freedom, and he made a point to mention the advanta

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-04 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 13-02-04 04:02 PM, ch...@thinkpenguin.com a écrit : > I thought I'd point people to a new project that aims to create a > distribution focused on improving access to GNU/Linux and free software for peoples with various disabilities: > > http://igg

Re: [Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-04 Thread Jason Self
It doesn't say if he plans for Sonar to be 100% free though.

[Trisquel-users] [off-topic] donation needed to improve accessibility

2013-02-04 Thread chris
I thought I'd point people to a new project that aims to create a distribution focused on improving access to GNU/Linux and free software for peoples with various disabilities: http://igg.me/p/sonar-project/x/2332188 I believe the person behind this is a well known individual in this communi