Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-15 Thread adrian . malacoda
Any time you see the word core in an open source announcement such as this, it's a huge red flag. Generally it means that only one specific component is being opened, and the majority of the framework (the actual important bits that an application requires to run) is being kept closed. The

Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-15 Thread jason
Thanks, and I should point out that if someone were to try to add that stuff outside of Core into some implementation of their own (such as Mono) they don't get the patent promise because the promise only extends to Covered Code and it defines it that: Covered Code means those Microsoft .NET

Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-15 Thread jabjabs
So this turned out exactly how I expected it too. Sounds good at first but then all my suspicitions about it are true.

Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-15 Thread andrew
If history is anything to go by M$ pronouncements are best understood with a copy of Sun Tzu's Art of War in the other hand. Still, free software has to fight the incumbents on their ground at some point and the .NET framework, (i.e. when M$ tried to expand to something not hardware

Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-13 Thread tegskywalker
What is the problem? As long as the free software remains free software then that is a positive. Oh wait... you won't be happy until that piece of free software forces the other bits to have their source code made open when its not supposed to be. Isn't it true free software about giving

Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-13 Thread lcerf
You wrote that it was smart to go with a permissive license instead of the GPL and I pointed out that the main difference it makes is the possibility to surround the free core with proprietary software. Given Microsoft history, I even assumed it is their business plan. I have no sympathy for

Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-13 Thread tegskywalker
I'm also going with the angle of the ease of integrating with other FLOSS software that may be GPL incompatible, but is still under a free software license.

Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-13 Thread tegskywalker
I don't code in C# and mainly a Python guy on the desktop and server side, but will this improve Wine and make it easier to port Windows programs that were heavily dependent on .NET?

[Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-12 Thread gromobir
I couldn't believe my eyes: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2014/11/12/net-core-is-open-source.aspx

Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-12 Thread tegskywalker
Thankfully its under the MIT license, meaning there are no restrictions on development and deployment. It was smart to go with a permissive license instead of the GPL since these are libraries.

Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-12 Thread tegskywalker
I've said this here multiple times about Mozilla Public License 2.0 being a good choice as it is copyleft at the file level.

Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-12 Thread jason
Well said. Covered Code only covers what you get from Microsoft. It doesn't apply to, say, independent implementations - only to that which you get from Microsoft (reference Covered Code means those Microsoft .NET libraries and runtime components as made available by Microsoft at... and