Re: [Trisquel-users] Beneficial Proprietary?

2013-04-30 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Beneficial proprietary? That sounds like fair trade organic slaves. So no, still mostly bad. But even bad entities do good things sometimes. For example Facebook which is a very disgusting and despicable giant corporation [1] [2] releases some free software. Thus it's better to say that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Beneficial Proprietary?

2013-04-30 Thread shiretoko
The free software movement mustn't be satisfied by someone who makes the software free some time after the release. It _is_ better than releasing the source code never, but honouring this puts us in danger to accept the bad practise of this companies. The user must own his freedom right now,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Beneficial Proprietary?

2013-04-30 Thread Michael Mehrazar
On Apr 29, 2013 11:35 PM, em9...@lavabit.com wrote: What is Grovel? Seconded. The only thing I could possibly guess is Google, but that doesn't sound right at all.

[Trisquel-users] Beneficial Proprietary?

2013-04-29 Thread superbyelich
Hey all, What do you all think about proprietary companies that have been beneficial to the free software movement like id software? I know there are some who are using free software for malicious means like Microsloth and Grovel.. but I think it's worth mentioning the likes of id,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Beneficial Proprietary?

2013-04-29 Thread onpon4
It's great when anyone does good, but that doesn't excuse unethical actions like developing proprietary software. Even if the unethical actions had some part in their contributions, they are still unethical actions which should be condemned. Consider the following situation: a slave owner

Re: [Trisquel-users] Beneficial Proprietary?

2013-04-29 Thread eladtrisquel
I don't consider it really beneficial to the free software movement. By the time they make their software free, the large majority of its former audience would of moved on to another proprietary platform/game. That said, it is better late than never to make the software free.