Re: [Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-06 Thread strypey
There's no compromise involved. They specify that any "permissive" license they move to later must be GPL-compatible. Relicensing was probably their intention right from the start, but the anti-copyleft trolls on Slashdot don't usually let nuanced details like that stop them from howling for

Re: [Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-04 Thread tegskywalker
That's a good thing the FLIF team was able to comprise. Codecs and formats in general should be as unrestricted as possible to aid in adoption. Heck, the Edge browser in Windows 10 is getting WebM support thanks to the codecs being under a BSD license.

[Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-03 Thread tegskywalker
http://tech.slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view=story=15/10/02/1525244 https://github.com/jonsneyers/FLIF/issues/3 It is interesting that this person went with a GPL license for a library/codec when he/she could have gone with maybe the LGPL or MPL or maybe Apache/BSD/MIT if they want to follow

Re: [Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-03 Thread onpon4
Hey, I know that guy! He's one of the people in the OpenPandora community who care about freedom rather than just "open source". Quite a loud libre software supporting voice there. Anyway: FLIF is an alternative for widely used non-patented, non-secret formats like PNG and JPEG. So really,

Re: [Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-03 Thread onpon4
Copyleft doesn't spread to other programs that happen to be installed on the same system. Android doesn't prevent libre programs from running on it. As for the rest, you're just saying that a bunch of proprietary programs can't use FLIF if it's under the GNU GPL. True, but you're entirely

Re: [Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-03 Thread tegskywalker
Due to him favoring ideology, - Cannot be used in the majority of web browsers. - Cannot be used in the majority of photo viewers. - Cannot be used in the majority of photo editors. - Cannot be used in phones, tablets, and cameras. - Cannot be used in TVs and dedicated media hardware. There's a

Re: [Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-03 Thread onpon4
> Cannot be used in the majority of web browsers. Define "majority". All of the libre Web browsers I'm aware of are under GPL-compatible licenses. Firefox's compatibility is indirect, but all Mozilla would have to do to be able to use FLIF, assuming it stays under the GPL, is dual-license

Re: [Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-03 Thread tegskywalker
1.) Majority as in Internet Explorer/Edge, Google Chrome, Safari, and Opera. All are under closed sources licenses that would make them GPL if they included this. The only exception would be Firefox, which is under the GPL friendly MPL 2.0. 2.) I'm talking about photo viewers in Windows

Re: [Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-03 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens
Due to him favoring ideology, - Cannot be used in the majority of [...] As far as I know nobody is stopping any proprietor from implementing support for FLIF by writing their own code. To the extent FLIF provides better technical capabilities to PNG, FLIF provides an interesting