Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-08-09 Thread tobias
At the current time Qt is not accessible on GNU/Linux, we need to fix that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-27 Thread shiretoko
In particular, I didn't understand why the sound would mute itself so much for a long time (it's related to headphones being plugged in and what Xfce does to the volume of individual devices) Yes, I really agree and made similiar experiences. Beside of this, Xfce4 is really nice. I think a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-27 Thread Andrew R .
On 27/06/13 17:53, shiretoko wrote: Yes, I really agree and made similiar experiences. Beside of this, Xfce4 is really nice. I think a bit of work has to be done concerning the optical appereance of the desktop; some parts look a bit oldfashioned. I never found a theme which made the task bar

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-27 Thread shiretoko
I don't think different themes can improve the problems I mentioned, because I tried a view and recognized the same old fashioned touch. It seems to be something more intrinsic to the desktop environment.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-27 Thread zatroch
My understandment of project health is as following: 1.| The creator - Rubén - has his very own life difficulties in Galicia region of Spain. Perhaps his brother, who commited to what Trisquel represents now, too. 2.| Progress made on Sugar environment, additional Dextrose tools and OLPC

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-26 Thread lloyd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Good. I think a bit of competition in this area will be a healthy thing. I don't know enough about it to decide between X, Wayland and Mir, I guess I need to do some reading. Interesting times! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-26 Thread silverslimer
In the effort to get free software to the widest amount of people possible, Trisquel SHOULD focus on one of the lighter desktop environments like LXDE or XFCE not only because their requirements are low but also because the system is not likely to change its functionality in any extreme way

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-26 Thread onpon4
I would have to disagree wholeheartedly about Fedora. Fedora reaches end-of-life much too soon and has far too many things just not working on any given release for beginners. Xfce, I'm not sure about. In particular, I didn't understand why the sound would mute itself so much for a long

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-25 Thread lloyd
If MIR is free and works with GNOME, then it's worth considering for Trisquel. We could potentially use Mir with GNOME3 shell and software rendering as the default setup, with the option to install free graphics drivers where they exist.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-25 Thread andermetalsh
What about XFCE4 ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-25 Thread Dave Hunt
I've heard good things about it but have not yet tried. On 06/25/2013 10:24 AM, andermeta...@lavabit.com wrote: What about XFCE4 ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-25 Thread gnufreeme
Is it significantly slower using the software rendering?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-25 Thread gnufreeme
I'm guessing X11 will still be packaged. Otherwise Kubuntu et al. are in a lot of trouble. I agree with Andrew. I think x11 will still be packaged and available. Also since we do not use Unity anyway Reuben is used to putting in a significant amount of work into the UI.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-25 Thread mikko . viinamaki
No, if you have a badass CPU. But it is significantly hotter and thus very soon louder.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-24 Thread ahj
Notice that the CPU can now render GNOME Shell. No need for 3D acceleration. Ah, this is excellent news! Cheers

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-24 Thread Julius22
Le Sun, 23 Jun 2013 14:40:57 +0200 (CEST), ll...@lloydsmart.com a écrit : The Debian question is interesting. Debian is certainly a superb distro, but basing on it presents a new set of issues to address. Chiefly, the extremely slow release schedule for stable. Whilst this is a positive thing

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-24 Thread Andrew R .
On 24/06/13 08:00, andrew wrote: On 23/06/13 21:07, ahj wrote: So Ubuntu 14.04 will have Unity 8.0 and Mir as their default DE and display server. What will this mean for Trisquel? I'm guessing X11 will still be packaged. Otherwise Kubuntu et al. are in a lot of trouble. This link was just

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-24 Thread tegskywalker
If Mir turns out to be pretty good and more flexible than X11 or just more modern and efficient, why not test it out instead of writing off entirely? Don't say you are going to take sides with Wayland either... that project is stagnant.

[Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-23 Thread ahj
So Ubuntu 14.04 will have Unity 8.0 and Mir as their default DE and display server. What will this mean for Trisquel? I'm assuming Ruben will want to keep GNOME 3 as the default DE - how is he going to implement 2D support? Will Trisquel 7.0 have to be based on Xubuntu or any other *buntu

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-23 Thread ahj
The other thing I was thinking of was that if, in the future, Trisquel will return to Debian as its base - perhaps gNewSense could amalgamate with Trisquel - or at least share development resources, since both distros would be sharing a common base, both technologically and politically.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-23 Thread lloyd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 This news about Ubuntu 14.04 is indeed troubling. To be honest, I'm not sure what the solution is - but I think it's pretty clear that it will become harder and harder to provide a free distro based on Ubuntu, as it becomes less and less free.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-23 Thread ahj
I think a Debian stable + an optional backported Linux-libre kernel updated mesa driver stack could work well - kind of what the Ubuntu LTS point releases are doing. Sure, the programs might be a bit dated, but you can always add program specific PPAs. An interesting (although

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-23 Thread lloyd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 You might be on to something there. But IMO there would have to be a few more backported packages than just the kernel and some drivers. A web browser, for example. PPAs are great, but we don't want users relying on them too much, because

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-23 Thread onpon4
Trisquel already deviates from Ubuntu's choice of a default DE. I doubt this change will cause many problems. Also, isn't Mir free software?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-23 Thread Andrew R .
On 23/06/13 21:07, ahj wrote: So Ubuntu 14.04 will have Unity 8.0 and Mir as their default DE and display server. What will this mean for Trisquel? I'm guessing X11 will still be packaged. Otherwise Kubuntu et al. are in a lot of trouble. I'm assuming Ruben will want to keep GNOME 3 as the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fear and Uncertainty - Trisquel 7.0

2013-06-23 Thread tegskywalker
I run MATE from the official PPA in Trisquel 6 and it has worked fine for me. The default implementation is rough around the edges and I decided to purge it out and replace with MATE. It works well and the low system resources are why it is my preferred DE.