Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-08-04 Thread Narcis Garcia
Is cuban people allowed to participate in Fedora development, sames as UK people do? Software is one side, project is the other side. El 4/8/19 a les 6:57, enduz...@riseup.net ha escrit: > How is this any different from Fedora's export ban? You can use Fedora > in Cuba (the Cubans do not

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-08-03 Thread jason
They say it doesn't apply to them: "Fedora software in source code and binary code form are publicly available and are not subject to the EAR in accordance with §742.15(b)." Most of GitHub is probably also "publicly available" too and exempt. But, Microsoft takes it further than they need

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-08-03 Thread enduzzer
How is this any different from Fedora's export ban? You can use Fedora in Cuba (the Cubans do not prohibit it), but you need to take it there first, which is illegal (circumventing the US sanctioned embargo). https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Export

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-08-01 Thread mason
It seems that the same countries have been blocked from GitLab since GitLab moved to Google Cloud Platform.[1][2] This doesn't affect third-party instances like framagit.org or self-hosted instances, but note that in this respect GitLab's own instance is not more accessible than Github.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-08-01 Thread elr
Be careful, gogs version of NAB is a fork and not an standalone version. Yes, framagit service uses GitLab software. Both are free software. There is no problem because they are self-hosted instances.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-31 Thread jason
There may be a slight misunderstanding. That's not quite what I was mentioning. Let's back up for a moment to what nadebula.1984 said. nadebula.1984's original statement that I was responding to about was exactly this: "I can publish a GNU GPL v3-or-Later licensed free/libre software, but

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-31 Thread Narcis Garcia
You decide your refusals. Microsoft/Github decide their refusals. What freedoms decide Trisquel project to deny or restrict? (not only on software code context but also on participation) El 31/7/19 a les 5:13, xliang9...@live.cn ha escrit: > I don't violate Freedom 0 if I deny someone to access

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-31 Thread Narcis Garcia
notabug.org service uses gogs.io software framagit.org service uses gitlab.com software El 31/7/19 a les 3:09, e...@disroot.org ha escrit: > https://notabug.org/hp/gogs/issues/236 > > I think it would be a better option using https://framagit.org

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-30 Thread xliang9550
No free/libre license forces the author to grant everyone access to the free/libre software, and GNU GPL is no exception.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-30 Thread xliang9550
I don't violate Freedom 0 if I deny someone to access a free/libre software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-30 Thread elr
https://notabug.org/hp/gogs/issues/236 I think it would be a better option using https://framagit.org

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-30 Thread jason
"can also explicitly prohibit anyone from using it without violating GNU GPL" A point of order: Publishing a program under the GPLv3 and including that would probably be a "further restriction" within the meaning of section 10 of GPLv3. This seems similar to what happens when programs are

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-30 Thread Ignacio Agulló
On 30/07/19 07:22, wrote: > It's not good to censor the developers in "Enemies of United States". > But this is not relevant to freedom. "Accessibility" is not an > inherent requirement of freedom. (See "Four Essential Freedoms", there > is no "accessibility".) Access != Accessibility

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-30 Thread David Philipe Gil
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-30 Thread Narcis Garcia
I understand that article talks about denying use of services, and about using currently hosted projects to exclude some people participation. https://github.com/1995parham/github-do-not-ban-us Important projects are still hosted in Github.com and are affected by this political exclusion:

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-30 Thread xliang9550
Every "user" who have one copy of free/libre software can exercise his re-distribution freedom (Freedom 2 and 3) to share it with "non-user". So, total censorship is technically impossible. And this is why companies and governments want to make sharing illegal.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-30 Thread Narcis Garcia
Sure, you are free (for example) to select your project members by race, and anti-racist people are free to migrate to another platform. Let's fitght to keep freedom on platform selection. gitlab.org is another example for self-hosting and/or self-management. El 30/7/19 a les 7:22,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-29 Thread xliang9550
It's not good to censor the developers in "Enemies of United States". But this is not relevant to freedom. "Accessibility" is not an inherent requirement of freedom. (See "Four Essential Freedoms", there is no "accessibility".) To be more specific, I can publish a GNU GPL v3-or-Later

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-29 Thread jcmartinez2129
I guess the only way that you can do version control in the most free way is storing your own repos. Do any of you know how good is notabug.org?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-29 Thread jason
"The end"? GitHub's been proprietary since the beginning so there never was any freedom to be lost in the first place.

[Trisquel-users] Off-topic: The end of Freedom in GitHub

2019-07-29 Thread Ignacio Agulló
Microsoft-Owned GitHub Blocks Devs in US Sanctioned Countries https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-owned-github-blocks-devs-in-us-sanctioned-countries/ -- Ignacio Agulló · grafot...@grafotema.com