Re: [Trisquel-users] Something I don't get about jamendo.com licenses

2015-03-20 Thread onpon4
To be clear, if it was selling exceptions to a non-commercial clause, that would be non-libre culture, and I don't support that. But if it's selling exceptions to CC BY, that has no effect, and if it's selling exceptions to CC BY-SA, it has the same effect as just using CC BY.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Something I don't get about jamendo.com licenses

2015-03-20 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
20-03-2015 02:37:59 onp...@riseup.net: If all we use the CC-BY-SA license in our works, are we giving the power to the big companies to make money using us? This is a terrible mistake. Non-commercial licenses don't put any restrictions on big corporations that they aren't used to.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Something I don't get about jamendo.com licenses

2015-03-20 Thread shiretoko
Thanks for your suggestions! Anyhow, the CC clause is valid and i can use the song without the jamendo commercial license, though nobody really knows what this exactly is.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Something I don't get about jamendo.com licenses

2015-03-20 Thread onpon4
Doesn't seem problematic. It's just an unnecessary alternative license in this case.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Something I don't get about jamendo.com licenses

2015-03-20 Thread marioxcc . MT
i can use the song without the jamendo commercial license, though nobody really knows what this exactly is. Then it is a worthless license, since you can't safely assume any additional permissions, which is the main purpose of Copyright licenses.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Something I don't get about jamendo.com licenses

2015-03-20 Thread geomaticasocial
Thanks onpon for the link. It shows well supported arguments to the discussion about the theme. What do you think about the Jamendo's issue?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Something I don't get about jamendo.com licenses

2015-03-19 Thread geomaticasocial
Hello to everybody here. Please, excuse my possible English mistakes. Some years ago I found that situation on Jamendo. At the begining I was a bit confused, but when I knew Amazon was printing and selling books from Wikipedia, I saw the things from another perspective. I supose Jamendo is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Something I don't get about jamendo.com licenses

2015-03-19 Thread marioxcc . MT
The CC-BY is the most permissive of Creative Common license series (And it's version 3.0 in this case). It's the first time that I open this web site, and I didn't make an exhaustive or conclusive research, but at a glance, it seems the site just puts the option to get a “commercial” license

Re: [Trisquel-users] Something I don't get about jamendo.com licenses

2015-03-19 Thread onpon4
If all we use the CC-BY-SA license in our works, are we giving the power to the big companies to make money using us? This is a terrible mistake. Non-commercial licenses don't put any restrictions on big corporations that they aren't used to. Keep in mind, they're used to having to pay

[Trisquel-users] Something I don't get about jamendo.com licenses

2015-03-19 Thread shiretoko
Hey everyone, sorry for the non-trisquel related topic, but it's about free culture and license stuff, so i hope it will be tolerated here. For many songs, there is a get commercial license button next to it; I can understand this if the normal license of the song has a non-commercial part

Re: [Trisquel-users] Something I don't get about jamendo.com licenses

2015-03-19 Thread nicolasrpmaia
I'm baffled. Their licensing page says nothing about licensing per se, only pricing options. A CC-BY would grant anyone commercial rights over the music, so why would anyone pay?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Something I don't get about jamendo.com licenses

2015-03-19 Thread gramex
The commercial license could be for producers that want the attribution requirement waived. I am just guessing.