> There are similar problems afflicting the Wire app for Android
...
> However, the Wire devs acknowledge it's a problem, and have said that
> fixing it is on their ToDo list
Thanks for the information. I'm glad they at least agree that it's a problem.
> Signal is a walled garden run by a person
Yes Parabola client and protocols (tg://) are libre, but servers and Android
client are nonfree.
There are similar problems afflicting the Wire app for Android, which is why
it's still not in F-Droid yet, see:
https://github.com/wireapp/wire-android/issues/5
https://github.com/wireapp/wire-android/issues/233
However, the Wire devs acknowledge it's a problem, and have said that fixing
it
cejfi:
> "It was not easy for me to switch to Telegram, had to install a lot of
clients to my close friends. So what is the alternative? Signal?"
There was a recently discussion on this topic here:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/videotelephony-trisquel-7
Personally, I'm leaning towards Wire.
indeed,
have a good time, man.
We are let to believe that there are so many options to choose from, but when
you think about it, the use cases, the best one is still to meet the person
you want to speak with "in person"
Thx for all the infos you shared.
> Like for example: how do I even know if my version is modified or not? And
> how it is modified?
I was referring to freedom 1. Wire is free software, so you are free to modify
it. Depending on the nature of your modifications you may not be able to use
your version with their servers. If you
> If your modified version is used to connect to their servers there are some
restrictions[1] on how it does so. That seems reasonable to me. It's up to
Wire how their computers are used. If your modified version does not use
Wire's servers there are no restrictions beyond the terms of the
Like for example: how do I even know if my version is modified or not? And
how it is modified?
> What about Wire? Anybody know anything bad about Wire?:)
Both the client and server-side software are free, and it does not have any
proprietary dependencies, so it suffers from neither of the issues with Signal
or Telegram. If your modified version is used to connect to their servers there
What about Wire? Anybody know anything bad about Wire?:)
Yes, I didn't mention proprietary dependency, because I didn't want to seem
too obstinate and that was a mistake. Great that you did it :)
Although Signal is free software, it cannot be built without Google Play
Services. So you are "free" to modify it, but only if you are willing to use
proprietary software to do so. It might still be preferable to Telegram,
however.
See:
Oh, I believe I have read about Signal somewhen in my past. Anyway, I did it
now and it looks way better than Telegram. It's great that their server side
software is free.
I understand you :) Well, I may not be the best friend or something just goes
wrong in this life period. Hmm, I stay
@nickeylodeon
Thanks for the new insights, I didn't think about Pavel being a Russian Gov.
player. But that explains why the Russian Gov. was only afraid of
Telegramto make it more popular.
It was not easy for me to switch to Telegram, had to install a lot of clients
to my close
Yes, this is true. Their client program for GNU/Linux though seems to be
libre (I am not sure). Their client for an Android operating system does
contain binary blobs and makes a use of things like Google Play Services and
HockeySDK, as described here:
I thought telegram was non-free because of the server it connects to.
I solved the issue. I'll post the solution just for others that might have
the same issue:
1. As said before I deleted indicator applet:
sudo apt remove mate-indicator-applet
At this stage you should have Telegram responding correctly but no volume
tray icon and you get an error on
Today I was @ work again and I noticed there both; volume and Telegram
work.Confuses me even more.
@happy_gnu Already tried
m.b. lxde?
Maybe reinstall Telegram?
Hello!
There is a problem with Telegram icon in the tray; Normally at my Work-PC
Telegram opens with a single-left-click on the Telegram tray icon, but at my
home PC it opened the context menu.
After this observation I reinstalled the mate-panel at my Home-PC and
Telegram started to open
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