[Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
For the time being and for annoying reasons I'm stuck with Debian on my Librebooted x200. I am not sure whether I am then running a free OS. If I understand FSF correctly, this can be obtained by un-installing or disabling Debians 'main' and 'contrib' repositories (https://www.gnu.org/dis

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
Thanks. My sources.list says: # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.6.0 _Jessie_ - Official Multi-architecture amd64/i386 NETINST #1 20160917-18:46]/ jessie main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.6.0 _Jessie_ - Official Multi-architecture amd64/i386 NETINST #1 20160917-18:46]/ jessie main deb

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
meh?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread calmstorm
pretty sure meh means indifference, but on an unrelated note, I am currently using debian but with one catch! linux libre 4.1! thanks Jxself!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread calmstorm
Yes agreed, don't make a franken-debian... is in the debian guide but I am too lazy to look it up. so meh...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
Are you telling me, that my kernel is (probably) not free?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread calmstorm
actually, yes and no! the nonfree parts are disabled by default. but if you want it to truly be free in every sense than do what I did.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
Is it cumbersome to install linux libre?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread calmstorm
It mostly works fine for me, with one exception, it did me no harm, but before you accept it as the only kernel make sure you are satisfied and reboot once also... also follow jxself's instructions completely especially the libreboot part! since you are also using it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
Thanks. I might try that, once I've gotten my librebooted machine to work.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread calmstorm
If you have used Full Disk Encryption, let me know how you got it to boot.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
Ha ha. That is still an unsolved problem. I've been struggling for so long time now. I just wrote Leah Rowe to ask for further/clearer instructions

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread onpon4
There is no proprietary software in the version of Linux distributed by Debian. It's deblobbed in almost the same way as Linux-libre. The primary difference is that Linux-libre removes references to the names of firmware files as well, and this has a side effect of making it impossible to loa

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
BTW, I'm trying to install IceCat from a tarball. I would expect to see a .deb file for installation but there is none. How/what do I install?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
Ok. I'm not sure I undertstand what you mean by "unintended side effect of making it impossible to load said proprietary firmware." though.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
How far/close did you get?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread onpon4
Basically, if you have the proprietary firmware file (the one that has been removed by deblobbing), it will work in Debian's kernel, but not Linux-libre, because Linux-libre doesn't know to look for that file. This is a long-standing Linux-libre bug.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread greatgnu
>actually, yes and no! the nonfree parts are disabled by default. but if you want it to truly be free in every sense than do what I did. yeah, because the difference between a kernel that has 0 proprietary firmware and another one that has 0 proprietary firmware is absolutely huge..

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-12 Thread orange
I have full disk encryption debian on my librebooted x200. Its simple, you just need to boot manually with the grub cmd first time and then reflash libreboot with a new grub config

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-13 Thread jbahn
Please see this thread/comment: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/no-grub-file#comment-105636