Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-24 Thread greatgnu
heehe :) a short but good one (that episode made me lull so much) -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqoEUdty4gE

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-24 Thread moxalt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tym0MObFpTI

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-23 Thread greatgnu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2ViNJFZC8

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-23 Thread moxalt
> The trisqueltrollsquad is not a group of users. I have never said such a > thing. Yes you did! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnTmBjk-M0c

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-22 Thread someonedidnotlikeitsothisishowitlooksnow
I haven't mentioned anything related to hostility neither frostility. The trisqueltrollsquad is not a group of users. I have never said such a thing.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-22 Thread zwiebel444
Try to boot with no internet access - system will wait for connection to appear for 1 minute and what it wants is only to connect, it is not any configuration. I've already found solution for this but can't understand why it's even here. I did, this morning, it doesn´t wait. Maybe you have a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-17 Thread tichun10
Such a nice community out there ^ _^ Maybe I was not so specific at all but this specific thing about establishment of internet connection is true: " "First thing that makes me tremble is the wait-up at boot-up for internet connection." - I don't experience that at all. Are you sure it's

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-17 Thread onpon4
> in some govn'ts and under certain conditions one has to use non-free (or have consequences) I'm really curious as to what you mean here. I'm not aware of any cases where governments force people to use computers at all, much less force them to run particular proprietary programs on their

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-17 Thread onpon4
> But what do I do when I'm required to use non-free? In Trisquel it is hard to install anything non-free. I guess, but in the same way, it's "hard" to install anything on Windows. Somehow, despite this, Windows users install a lot of software on their computers.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-17 Thread jason
1. In Trisquel it is hard to install anything non-free. 2. Debian (etc.) can also be free but allows to install non-free 3. and that is unacceptable by FSF I think you're conflating different issues here. I shall try to explain. The word "allows" is probably the wrong word to use. Any free

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-17 Thread jabjabs
Thank you for this! I am a little tired of it constantly reading when I log in. Trying to logic with *asterisk* *asterisk* *asterisk* *asterisk* *asterisk* coming out of the speaker isn't always welcome. :P

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-17 Thread greatgnu
The whole point of Trisquel is to make it trivially easy for everybody to use their computer in complete freedom. If you need non-free software for whatever reason you should choose one of the 1000 distros of GNU that ship non-free software in their repositories. Trisquel does not "decide

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread tichun10
I would like to believe in it but it is dishonest and not real. I would love it was for real free.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread tichun10
Is this free software for You? For me definitely not. I can not take advantage of free software over non-free because I'm not a programmer and there is little help provided. I can not install software that is not free software which is regime, censorship and limitation of freedom

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread jadedml
Hey, let's not jump the gun and call him a troll... Maybe Tichun's just extremely irrational or dimwitted.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread davesamcdxv
"I can not delete software - so that is 100% in definition of bloatware" You can.please say what you tried to and then cannot delete and one of us may be able to help with that. I do not understand you attitude, critical opinion is crucial for improvement and it seems like You took it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread onpon4
> I can not take advantage of free software over non-free because I'm not a programmer and there is little help provided. You should either have a friend help you, or hire someone. Maybe those aren't possibilities for you, but that wouldn't be because you're being mistreated, just because

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread someonedidnotlikeitsothisishowitlooksnow
complainer ¡= troll The trisqueltrollsquad members seem to have a fixed idea on segregating between either of two kind of users: troll, not-a-troll. Mr Tichum, my sweetie, Have I ever told ya how much I love you? I love you to the Mnn!!! You are requesting something that you

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread onpon4
The negative reaction came from the OP's aggressive post about libre software being "claptrap" for nonsensical reasons, not because he he had complaints. Should he have been labeled as a troll? Maybe not. Should people have responded to his hostility with hostility against him? Probably not.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread greatgnu
>like You took it as I'm your enemy no >Netinstall is not an option for me Then you should use the normal installation until you build up experience to perform a netinstall one > like with orca screen reader connected to your OS forever not true. sudo apt remove --purge gnome-orca

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread mcz
>>> You should be able to select whether it is a fast-forward or advanced process. Fair enough, if that exists in other distros. >>> Why don't make advanced installation option where You choose ALL the details? I think that would actually be a nice option, if doable. Of course, that would

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread Valentijn
On 12/11 12:47, davesamc...@openmailbox.org wrote: >> Why also installer asks for full name and nickname > Let's put it this way: Trisquel doesn't write an OS from the ground-up > (it doesn't say so on the front page, but all GNU/Linux distros actually do > this) >, but rather took the GNU OS,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread greatgnu
yeah..

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread zwiebel444
In what way is Trisquel dishonest? It is real, you are on its website. What do you wnat to do, that you can´t because you are actively restricted. You can always try parabola, or if that isn´t enough freedom of choice you could try Gentoo(not guaranteed to be 100%free).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Welcome new troll, our old trolls have gotten fat and lazy.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread zwiebel444
It is free software since it gives you 4 importandt rights. The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0). The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-12 Thread davidvargas1
Lembas How could you welcome new trolls? They are always hungry, malnourished and suffering starvation. Not even The World Food Program want to to feed them. The solution is to feed them, to our old trolls that have gotten fat and lazy.

[Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-11 Thread tichun10
Hello dear Community. Trisquel is full of bloatware from the begging - removal of unused locales takes the BIGGEST chunk of installation time. (not to mention unnecessary questions appearing on usual installation - You should be able to select whether it is a fast-forward or advanced

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-11 Thread greatgnu
>Trisquel is full of bloatware from the **begging** - removal of unused locales takes the BIGGEST chunk of installation time. (not to mention unnecessary questions appearing on usual installation - You should be able to select whether it is a fast-forward or advanced process) Then we move on

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-11 Thread zwiebel444
Isn´t the advanced one the netinstall? Maybe try the Trisquel mini, that has less/smaller software preinstalled. Gnome uses a few tools for totally different things, like Evolution is used for the clock... The locals are needed for people who doesn´t speak English. The documentations range

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-11 Thread tichun10
I do not understand you attitude, critical opinion is crucial for improvement and it seems like You took it as I'm your enemy. Your answer had not a single thing I could learn from. Netinstall is not an option for me as I've limited transfer and GNU tends to have issues if You play with it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-11 Thread tichun10
@Larissa English is my tertiary language and that doesn't mean I want all the languages in image I download. I can't even find where to change what in gnome menu to change certain things other than those trivial made with single clicks - like I can't change only system time font size -

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-11 Thread onpon4
I don't know why in particular you want to remove languages just because you aren't using them. All they do is take up a little extra space on your hard drive, and the amount isn't enough to cause problems with the amount of storage you typically will have. Also, little services like the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untransparent Bloatware

2015-11-11 Thread zwiebel444
Tirsquel Mini only has English and Spanish, so you could use that. If that is not small enough try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootServices http://www.unixtutorial.org/2009/01/disable-service-startup-in-ubuntu/. If this isnt enough you might need to use parabola orbuild your own