Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-11-10 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
To support onpon4's argumentation, see WhatsApp as an example. WhatsApp implemented a XMPP-uncompliant communication based on XMPP standard. On the other hand, XMPP can be used to provide "bridges" to other instant communications. JMP ([1]) --- an instance of jmp-register ([2]), which is part of

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-11-10 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Nice one, if you want to: don't forget to add me to your list of contacts! ;) peter.ko...@posteo.net writes: > I have my own prosody server running at home. I use Conversations > client in Replicant and Pidgin on desktop. > -- - https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno - Palestrante e consultor

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-11-06 Thread onpon4
> What would it take to reverse engineer all the major voice/ video chat apps (Skype, Hangouts, FaceTime, WhatsApp, WeChat, Telegram, Signal etc), so that free code client software could connect with them? I don't know the answer to that, but remember that the developers of these proprietar

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-11-06 Thread strypey
Recently, a friend was forced to buy a new handheld, with a more current version of Android, so she could use WeChat. Using WeChat was required by prospective employers in China for remote interviews. If she had refused to use WeChat because it forces her to own a personal surveillance device

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-11-05 Thread intheforest
Pavel Durov -- he used be a CEO of VK

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-10-12 Thread peter . kovac
I have my own prosody server running at home. I use Conversations client in Replicant and Pidgin on desktop.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-10-12 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Rescently, I found out that the best strategy we have so far is actually to recommend descentralized/federated communications/networks such as XMPP/Jabber to the general public, and develop distributed ones "in the background" for use when they are mature, friendly, easy and "power-saving" enough.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-10-04 Thread elr
Yes. And i repeat that it is a LibreJS detection mode error or programming error because developers didn't get in mind that their programming model on webs is not used by most people.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-10-04 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Not exactly, it's a problem of misunderstanding of how JS is supposed to be freed/liberated, and also a misunderstanding of what are DOM/HTML/JS event handlers/listeners. Happens with most web designers nowadays. See also: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Talk:Riot-im e...@openmailbox.org writes:

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-10-04 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Here: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Talk:Riot-im Hope it helps. ;) mapp...@null.net writes: > Could you post that reference here? In your previous post after 'see' > there's only a dot. >

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-24 Thread elr
https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-23 Thread csh
Who is Durov?

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-23 Thread csh
Show me. Everyone who uses Telegram Desktop says it is Electron.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-23 Thread elr
I have had some problems with Tox on calls (Antox, qTox and uTox), and GNU Ring (Trisquel, i can't install it and Android, it crash). I only use Riot. Riot App is only one of the MATRIX clients, https://matrix.org/docs/projects/try-matrix-now.html#clients

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-23 Thread elr
Source Code is completely free, the problem is detection-mode of LibreJS.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-23 Thread mappack
Could you post that reference here? In your previous post after 'see' there's only a dot.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-23 Thread intheforest
heh, don't you like XMPP? What can be better than free as in 'freedom' federated protocol? You can choose/create any client you want. I use Pidgin & Conversations ;)

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-21 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
What does it show? Try doing: Trisquel menu -> Accessories -> Terminal And then type: qtox And press Enter/Return Please tell me the results, I'm here to help. ;) sigd...@gmail.com writes: > I installed Tox. But not working. It also not show in install list. Why? >

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-20 Thread greatgnu
>xmpp >pidgin profanity FTW :P

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-19 Thread taknamay
If you use Pidgin then you can use XMPP (a.k.a. Jabber). Of course that is older and perhaps inferior to some of this new stuff, but it's still what I use on desktop and mobile.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-19 Thread elr
Telegram client is not an electron app.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-19 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Sorry it can't, using webbrowser requires non-free JS, per the reference I gave. mapp...@null.net writes: > Riot only uses Electron for its desktop app which, if I am not > mistaken, is just a web browser. Riot can be used without any > proprietary software by using Icecat and going to riot.im.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-19 Thread mappack
Riot only uses Electron for its desktop app which, if I am not mistaken, is just a web browser. Riot can be used without any proprietary software by using Icecat and going to riot.im.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-19 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
If I'm not mistaken, Riot-im also depends on Electron, see . c...@bluehome.net writes: > Matrix. > > I use Riot to text my family. It supports emoji, voice chat, video > chat, text chat, group chat, and maybe some other things I don't know > of yet. >

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-18 Thread csh
Matrix. I use Riot to text my family. It supports emoji, voice chat, video chat, text chat, group chat, and maybe some other things I don't know of yet. My family finds it easy to use. They say the mobile app is no worse than any other app. In particular, they said it was similar to Disco

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-18 Thread csh
Telegram is not free software. First, let me say that there is nothing wrong with the server-side code being proprietary. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/network-services-arent-free-or-nonfree.html The issue with Telegram is its CLIENT. The client is NOT free software. It is an Electron

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-17 Thread Ignacio Agulló
On 17/09/17 22:39, wrote: > Sending of the message failed. > The message could not be sent using Outgoing server (SMTP) > smtp.mail.yahoo.com for an unknown reason. Please verify that your > Outgoing server (SMTP) settings are correct and try again. > > Please help! Address is right. I happen to

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-17 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
See my last message. sigd...@gmail.com writes: > Sending of the message failed. > The message could not be sent using Outgoing server (SMTP) > smtp.mail.yahoo.com for an unknown reason. Please verify that your > Outgoing server (SMTP) settings are correct and try again. > > Please help! >

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-17 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I wonder if the "smtp.mail.yahoo.com" address is really right... I guess it could be either "smtp" or "mail". As a second recommendation: Did you try Trisquel's default email client (GNOME Evolution)? To find it, go to the Applications menu, or the Trisquel menu, then to Internet/Web, then you sho

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-17 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I wonder what is the issue exactly... Perhaps I can help by contacting the project so that the issue can be worked on. I already have an account in their issue tracker, due to some contributions I'm also making, so we can investigate the current issue if you provide more information on what exactl

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-17 Thread sigdpsy
Sending of the message failed. The message could not be sent using Outgoing server (SMTP) smtp.mail.yahoo.com for an unknown reason. Please verify that your Outgoing server (SMTP) settings are correct and try again. Please help!

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-17 Thread sigdpsy
Then I am disappointed with pidgin I am disappointed with thunderbird also. It is show this message: Login to server smtp.mail.yahoo.com. failed. I renter my password again and again. But fail. I am upset.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-17 Thread sigdpsy
At last I can install gnu ring. But it is not user-friendly. Telegram is more user-friendly than ring.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-13 Thread sigdpsy
I installed Tox. But not working. It also not show in install list. Why?

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-13 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I would suggest GNU Ring and also Tox. I know Tox can be installed using dpkg or apt (Trisquel's package managers, which are used in the "Add/Remove programs" and also by Synaptic). I have both installed in my copy of Trisquel, using GNU Guix, but I don't know if GNU Ring can be installed using d

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-11 Thread sigdpsy
Yes. Solved control center->software and updates-> other software->trisquel 8.0 flidas. Editing Just changing es to fr Solved.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-10 Thread sigdpsy
I could not understand. How can select another server.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-10 Thread sigdpsy
I am trying to install - Tox. But this message: W: Failed to fetch http://es.archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/pool/main/s/sphinx/libjs-sphinxdoc_1.3.6-2ubuntu1.1_all.deb Could not connect to es.archive.trisquel.info:80 (188.165.228.124). - connect (111: Connection refused) Please help!

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-10 Thread sigdpsy
What is alternative of Telegram? I need a messaging app that service voice call also. But this apps must be free.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-10 Thread intheforest
YOU ARE NOT SAFE WHEN YOU USE TELEGRAM!! DON'T TRUST THE SERVICE WHICH IS LEADED BY Дуров!!! IT'S A HUGE ENGINE OF PROPOGANDA (PLEASE DO SEARCH SOME INFO ABOUT 'TELEGRAM AND ROSCOMNADZOR').

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-09 Thread vitacell
I use Telegram, it is free software, the easiest way to obtain it is downloading binary from official website: https://telegram.org/ BUT: it uses closed source server side. Also I seen some fork of Telegram, but I do not know what new inside these fork of Telegram.

Re: [Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-09 Thread leestrobel
Version 7 of Trisquel comes with Pidgin installed by default. Telegram doesn't seem to be available in the Trisquel repository, probably because (according to the Wikipedia page) it contains binary blobs and the server-side code is closed-source.

[Trisquel-users] apps

2017-09-09 Thread sigdpsy
Messaging apps like Telegram in Trisquel. Which?