Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-22 Thread shiretoko
Thanks! Didn't find those back when I was looking for a solution.

Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-21 Thread tegskywalker
What if you use this program in Office 2003 or 2007 and then save in a newer format or OpenDocument via a plugin or native support in 2007? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=12 FYI this is the other plugin for older Office:

Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-21 Thread tegskywalker
Fun fact.. documents created in iWork may also embed a PDF version of the document which can be extracted. I haven't touched an iWork file since 2010, but I remember that option.

Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-21 Thread shiretoko
This refers to the works word format, not the database. In fact, I found quite a few converter for works word as well as for works excel, but none for works database.

Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-21 Thread tegskywalker
How about these? http://www.codealchemists.com/worksdatabaseconverter/ http://www.mydigitallife.info/convert-microsoft-works-database-wdb-to-csv-or-excel-without-works-installed/ https://support.microsoft.com/kb/197894

[Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-20 Thread adel . afzal
For example: a non-free software proprietor stops software/security updates to old-format, and introduces new-format, to encourage everyone to buy new-software. Links to articles would be great if you know of any.

Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-20 Thread legimet . calc
Microsoft? They abandoned .doc and switched to OOXML (although .doc support is still there)

Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-20 Thread shiretoko
Best example: the microsoft works database. Microsoft works is an old office suite which has been abandoned years ago. If you have stored all your data in works formats, then good luck trying to convert them! I know that it's pretty hard when it comes to the database files.

Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-20 Thread elad
Appleworks is a great example. The current version of iWork cannot open the older Appleworks format. Older versions of iWork that can read them are not available from Apple and may be difficult to come by and the PowerPC translation layer, Rosetta cannot be installed on OS X Lion and up

Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-20 Thread tegskywalker
I would say that's an improvement as .doc, .xls, and .ppt were binary and not standardized. At least with the new formats, they are XML based and more open even if Microsoft doesn't follow the ISO standard.

Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-20 Thread andrew
ISTR a web article by an author/writer back in the day about how by the time of Office 95 Microsoft had abandoned Word v2 format. He was annoyed to say the least, because as a writer he needed long term access to his text. Fortunately he hadn't thrown away the old computer with Word 2 on.