*************
The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org
************
Hi Brian,
On Nov 14, 2012, at 8:21 PM, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org wrote:
OT 3 is not addressing YOUR involvement in the incident. It is
addressing
the BTs OT 3 incident. Thus your actual involvement with the
incident has no
bearing on the matter in running OT 3. Best to just run TROM and
not get
involved with trying to run entities. Dennis spoke of his beliefs
about
entities on one of his tapes. I think it was this tape:
02_Dissociation12Jan93.mp3
Brian
Yes, I have specifically not addressed my involvement in OT3 because
it was my involvement, particular to me and would not be the same as
someone else. For me to be specific about my involvement would only
be extraneous and counter to anyone else finding and knowing their
involvement. It could also easily influence someone else's recall of
their involvement and of course non-involvement.
The Pilot in his Super Scio also does the same but does not give a
reason why as I just did here and in my link below. Case is messy
enough as it is. It is not doing anyone a favor by adding more into
it. It is in fact a dis-favor.
To put OT3 in perspective, I have gone past it and have had my own
encounters with BTs and have had no ill effect whatsoever. The Pilot
mentions that it is not a major incident and that it mostly gets in
the way of getting to what should and needs to be addressed. I have
also encountered those (a close friend being one) who (many closely)
went quite the effect of it while on OT3 and also just breezed right
thru. That one person was just about ready to drop the body and
almost in fact did. He did get thru it but I have not had
interaction with that person since that time.
The Pilot also mentions that Ron didn't get it correctly just as I
did and I will be posting more from the Pilot soon and adding my
comments.
Paul/Level 5 in progress
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Tipon [mailto:pti...@proftitleserv.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:33 AM
To: trom@lists.newciv.org
Subject: Re: [TROM1] Leve 4 "to enhance" @ xriz again
This is a back channel post to another TROMmer about OT3. I will be
posting more too.
On Nov 11, 2012, at 4:00 AM, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org wrote:
I see your point and understand that well.
Can you tell me back channel what the false informations are ?
Would be
great though if it can be said openly on the list here.
I certainly want to get rid of false philosophies i swallowed
unwittingly.
thanks
xriz
One has to realize that not everyone suffered from the engram of
OT3. Depending on one's participation or non-participation is one
factor. Whether or not one was one of those trapped and sent to
Earth and is still being a body Thetan or has since moved up the
Thetan ladder is another factor. Then there are the ones not trapped
at all who only observed or ran the trapping. LRH did nothing to
sort out what should be run in accordance with one's involvement.
Some were not even near the incident and had no news or any data on
it at all.
I have some consideration that Level 4 runs out OT3. When you get
the cognition of 'Freedom from Overwhelm', you will know what I
mean. In the mean time, Level 4 is heavily into overts and
motivators. Ego is also on that line. Making others wrong and self
right is an ego thang. The justification line that everyone puts out
is also an ego thang. One doing a motivator is both an ego thang and
a justification thang. And of course a motivator leads to new
justified overts.
These are all actions that have nothing to do with games but of
course get used and put into the playing of games. The biggest
factor that keeps any aberration in is avoidance which is a withhold
phenomena which is an overt/motivator package product. It is
important to handle overts and motivators as it is to handle one's
case of engrams. The two do not mix but they sure get heaped onto
the pile with each other and mixed and blended up into a really ugly
smoothie.
This is why I really stress Level 4 and I effort to get others to see
how really big a Level it is. It is the biggest. It will provide
the most gains. It has the capacity to solve all of one's case, both
engramic and withhold wise.
There is also the obvious result from Level 4 of handling GPMS. They
just kind of disappear because they are largely de-stimulated but not
erased completely. As a minimum, the overts and motivators attached
to GPMs greatly reduce and if done thoroughly, all can be as-ised.
These overts and motivators that are directly connected to GPMs are
the major portion of the charge that GPMs have. I believe anything
left over can get handled in Level 5 where the unknownness to
knownness can handle the silly, moronic packages that are the
terminals vs. opterms can get as-ised by truth and knownness.
Paul/Level 5 in progress
_______________________________________________
Trom mailing list
Trom@lists.newciv.org
http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
