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i know this is just corect. use trom and get the mind out of service  
because it is the final service efect. then at the end you have all  
and nothing together
the spirit alone pure theta not being




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>    1. Re: Engrams, thetans, etc. And the Church of Scientology. (Slim .)
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> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:57:34 -0700
> From: "Slim ." <slimspersonalem...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Engrams, thetans, etc. And the Church of
>       Scientology.
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> The mind is the past time and space universe . Its opposed to the
> present time universe.
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> Like all things in the universe the past and present obey the laws of
> duality.
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> Up down left right good bad life death etc.
>
> Considerations made in the past have influence in the present.
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> The only thing that violates the law of duality is the universe .
> Meaning 1
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> Considerations , postulates, once created stay in existence in both
> universes past and present.
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> Considerations are created in the present but instantly become
> considerations of the past.
>
> This is an illusion . Spiritual beings create time the past and
> present. We are timeless, outside of time and the universe . Our
> considerations, postulates are not bound by time or human bodies. Time
> is an illusion like all other illusions . The universe is a created
> thing and this is nit the only universe . There are many others im
> different dimensions and locations.
>
> Some just like this one and others very different with different
> universal laws.
>
> Postulates created in the past govern / limit our abilities in the
> present.
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> We limited our own abilities with considerations and level five will
> systematically address and eliminate the considerations that limit our
> ability in the present .
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> What the mind shall be would be good to define.
> In scio terms it`s content are pictures as I got it. And then there is
> another mind which is the person itself, the you, the analytical mind. That
> is no good explanation for my taste.
> We also have in scio the somatic mind and the reactive mind.
> What is your definition of the mind ?
>
> Li
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> Auftrag von SPE
> Gesendet: Montag, 17. Oktober 2011 00:10
> An: The Resolution of Mind list
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> Hi Alex,
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> I'm not saying engrams, file clerks, as-is,  thetans, etc.  don't exist.
> Dennis and I like to use the word spiritual beings rather than thetan, etc.
> for example.   Just the whole subject of Scientology and all of it's tech
> were time broken.  Didn't take much and I wasn't out to do so . But it
> popped up, so I time broke it. Fipped right out instantly. Didn't even know
> it was a charged up subject until it was time broken.
>
> Scientology tech will have you as-is an incident in order to vanish or
> eliminate the charge. There's no need to as is an incident with time
> breaking, you simply compare the two in the same time and space.
>
> Some incidents , events , overwhelms, etc. do not time brake out like
> others. They go null but are still there with less charge.  Not all the
> "things" you want to time break will time brake out. Some will vanish
> completely , others will need to be delt with latter. "They're" not all
> created equal. Some have more charge than others.
>
> I've had days while on level four , time breaking while walking down the
> street, one past scene after another . I recall it very well and you could
> say I overdosed . Too much too soon. It was difficult to contain my
> enthusiasm so to speak for a while after.  The past scenes wernt just going
> null they were being destroyed as fast as I made the comparison. One after
> another after another.  They came up, compared and completely vanished.
>
> The other thing with Scientology is the definition of the mind. Very
> different. I'll let you discover the similarities and differences for
> yourself when you're ready and up to it.  Read Dianetics the modern science
> of mental health.  You'll see what I mean .
>
> Any Scientologist with tech training who wants to use TROM correctly will
> need to toss all that they've come to know re the mind and the like in the
> nearest garbage can . It's not a total loss however. They will at least have
> learned how to study correctly while they were taking the courses. This is a
> plus when it comes to TROM and studying the games manual.
>
> Personally , I don't care , we are all free to mix up, combine, delete, and
> use what ever means we want.  Theres a ton of stuff on the Internet to use.
> I just use TROM exactly as it's designed.
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>
> Nice to hear from you btw !!
>
> Slim
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