Re: [TruthTalk] What about this William Penn, Quaker writing?

2004-04-09 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings Marlin et al in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! I, too, have had the privilege of knowing some Quakers through the years and becoming somewhat close to a few. The Penn writings of which that I wrote that took so long to procure, and were not available in

RE: [TruthTalk] Gnosticism

2004-04-09 Thread David Miller
Bill wrote: PS When I use the term proto-Gnostics I mean first-- from Gk. protos--and not to mean before or prior to. You may have picked up on this,; nevertheless, I'm telling you so as to not mislead you. I appreciate you making this comment. The term proto in the sciences certainly

[TruthTalk] Re:Romans 7

2004-04-09 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 09, 2004 03:52 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Gnosticism Bill wrote: PS When I use the term proto-Gnostics I mean first-- from Gk. protos--and not to mean before or prior to. You may have

Re: [TruthTalk] new dating for Turin Shroud

2004-04-09 Thread Terry Clifton
Blaine Borrowman wrote: - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] new dating for Turin Shroud Blaine Borrowman wrote: Well and good

Re: [TruthTalk] regular guy????

2004-04-09 Thread Terry Clifton
Chris Barr wrote: \o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings Izzy et al in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! "Now therefore, if ye will obey My voice indeed, and keep My covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto Me above all people: for all the earth is Mine: And ye

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Romans 7

2004-04-09 Thread Wm. Taylor
I missed your point Lance. What about Romans 7? Bill - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 4:18 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Re:Romans 7 - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

[TruthTalk] All things in moderation?

2004-04-09 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings Terry in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! So THAT explains your moderation in righteousness, obedience, holiness, truth, etc. :-) "And YahShua answered him, 'The first of all the commandments is, Shema, Ysrael, YHVH Elohime, YHVH echad. And thou shalt love

RE: [TruthTalk] Wise beyond his years ...

2004-04-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Chris, You are cracking me up with your humor lately. A refreshing change of pace (on the whole). J Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Barr Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Wise beyond his

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-09 Thread Wm. Taylor
David writes To get us back toward the Christian Perfection doctrine a little, let meask you this. How does understanding Gnosticism, and the misperceptionof a Jew like Cerinthus concerning the Incarnation and who Jesus was,help us understand a verse like 1 John 5:18? KJV 1 John 5:18 --

RE: [TruthTalk] new dating for Turin Shroud

2004-04-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Chris, Since you seem to be taking your St. Johns Wort lately, I thought it might be safe to ask: Do you know of any scientific studies that show the benefits of keeping a diet according to Levitical dietary laws? Have you had a chance to read The Makers Diet by Jordan Rubin? It just came

RE: [TruthTalk] new dating for Turin Shroud

2004-04-09 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Aye the Makers Diet looks quite interesting. www.mercola.com is pushing it a lot (along with his own book which I grabbed a month or so ago). I like juicing, just not the cleaning up J Anyways, off for the weekend. I hope you all have a good Easter. Jonathan From: [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] It's just as I said, DaveH ...

2004-04-09 Thread Dave
Chris Barr wrote: \o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings Terry in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! You won't get it unless it is revealed to you by The Saviour Himself ... that will require a purity of heart's desire in accordance with Jeremiah 29:13. One minor

[TruthTalk] Trinity

2004-04-09 Thread David Miller
DaveH wrote: So.what is it about the Trinity Doctrine that bothers you, Chris? Chris wrote: The Almighty is ONE entity and not some three-headed siamese triplet freak. DaveH wrote: Thanx Chris..that is succinctly described. Wait a minute! Dave, you are not going to get off with

RE: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-09 Thread David Miller
Bill wrote: The question, as I see it, if we are to understand this verse, is this: Who is it that keeps you from the wicked one? Does this verse teach us that you keep yourself from the wicked one? ... We only get into trouble with this passage when we assume something about ourselves

Re: [TruthTalk] What about this William Penn, Quaker writing?

2004-04-09 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Blaine: Marlin, I have not been following your posts beyond a brief scan (for time's sake), but this took my attention. Now I have to ask you, is the below your belief, or is it that of your friends, the quakers? If theirs, how do you interpret it? True, or partly true, or what? -

[TruthTalk] steakburger--better than . . .

2004-04-09 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Hey TTr's how about this site for delicious/nutritious eating!! look see for yourselves at . . . . http://www.steakburger.com/they_laughed.html

Re: [TruthTalk] steakburger--better than . . .

2004-04-09 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Izzy: The article came from meridianmagazine.com-- http://www.ldsmag.com/ lots of interesting articles there to peruse through. I eat whatever I eat, but ideally I would eat grass-fed beef if I could get it.(:) - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Protestants

2004-04-09 Thread ttxpress
not the way you think...for whomis theoption realistic, relative to your question, below, a Protestant or a Morman? On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 22:23:29 -0700 Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ftr, yes, I am a Protestant:) DAVEH: How do you get that from the

[TruthTalk] (Ask the drummer..

2004-04-09 Thread ttxpress
..to loosen his tie--take off his shirt if he wants to; turn up the amps)From the Tomb Without a Stone (on the Protestant side of the Passion) Like subtle features of our speeches Father burns withinAll the sweet of Georgia peaches way down in the souls of menDead damsels dance, their

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-04-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/8/2004 6:21:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, I thought you didnt believe in the rapture? Worried now? Izzy Well, for a minute or so, I was seriously reconsidering. The main problem I have with the "rapture" teaching is that it is so involved. My

Re: [TruthTalk] Gnosticism

2004-04-09 Thread Knpraise
Most on this list seem to very well informed so my observation may not be necessary. Regarding this current discussion about perfectionism and the letter of Ist John (especially 1:7-9) The Weslian view that a Christian does not sin after receiving the Holy Spirit depends heavily up wording in I

Re: [TruthTalk] Terry not blessed

2004-04-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/8/2004 6:49:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: typed Mormon but left out the second "m" DAVEH: That's previously been done on TT more times than you might imagine. If you ever see that IT WAS A TYPE - O ). I am being serious -- and I will give proof

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit

2004-04-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/8/2004 7:11:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Of course you are allowed to think it, Johnjust be careful that you do not post all that you think.. Thank you DaveH -- I have already been given that lesson John

Re: [TruthTalk] Gnosticism

2004-04-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/8/2004 6:26:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From my perspective, speech like this is exclusionary and elitist. If we understand that context (grammar, history, purpose , date, culture, etc.) is critical to a full understanding of any scripture, then

RE: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-04-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
John, I think Im with you. If you have to construe that much, it probably is just wishful thinking. Im planning on hanging out till the 2nd Coming. Not planning on getting out of the 7 yr Trib: just prevailing through it supernaturally. (However, I wouldnt mind being pleasantly surprised.

Re: Smithson again ... Re: [TruthTalk] John Quincy Adams on the trinity

2004-04-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/8/2004 10:17:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: except you repent. repent of what? John

[TruthTalk] St. John's Wort?

2004-04-09 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily Sent: 04/09/2004 8:58 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] new dating for Turin Shroud Izzy: Chris, Since you seem to be taking your St. John’s Wort lately, chris: Have never

Re: [TruthTalk] Still in school ...

2004-04-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/8/2004 10:49:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (JUST LIKE RAV SHAUL). Yeh, yeh, yeh. My ex-mother-in-law is oneness -- United Pentecostle Church of God. A doctrine spawned from the seeds of legalism. But, hey, the first church was full of legalists

Re: Smithson ... Re: [TruthTalk] Terry not blessed

2004-04-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/8/2004 10:52:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It means 'Repent or perish' just as it says. I do not regard this as an honest response. I repented years ago. What you really mean is "accept my thinking on Jesus only revelation and thou shalt be saved."

[TruthTalk] Science and Scriptural dietary requirements

2004-04-09 Thread Chris Barr
Title: Romans , Chapter 14 \o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua [that's the name Jesus was called by His mom, dad, brothers, sisters, disciples and others who loved Him] !! Royal Raymond Rife created a microscope (The Universal Microscope) in the 1920s

Re: [TruthTalk] new dating for Turin Shroud

2004-04-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/9/2004 4:49:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just an afterthought. I think I would be troubled by a Savior that glowed in the dark. Terry It woould add new meaning to the scripture that says "If we walk in the light as he is in the light . " huh?

Re: [TruthTalk] St. John's Wort?

2004-04-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/9/2004 4:16:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The concentration of the juice without the bulk is a stress to the system. The Almighty intended us to get ALL of what he put in "fruit bearing seed for your meat". It's OK as I previously noted but it can be