Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-02 Thread Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/2/2004 9:53:56 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH:  I'm hung up on it because I find the popular Christian perception to be very interesting.  To me it is obviously

Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-02 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 6/2/2004 9:53:56 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH:  I'm hung up on it because I find the popular Christian perception to be very interesting.  To me it is obviously symbolic, but to most Christians it seems to be a literal lak

Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-02 Thread Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH:  I'm hung up on it because I find the popular Christian perception to be very interesting.  To me it is obviously symbolic, but to most Christians it seems to be a literal lake of fire.  Yet (to me) it seems so illogical.That a loving God would pun

Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-06-02 Thread Dave
David Miller wrote: DAVEH wrote: From what I've learned previously in TT, anybody who dies without believing in Jesus is condemned to the lake of fire. That's because all have sinned. The wages of sin is death. DAVEH:  Now you are drawing a conclusion that dea

[TruthTalk] Language & Communication

2004-06-02 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Judy wrote:So, the Holy Spirit is not able to give understanding if everyone does not see every nuance of language in  the same light?  I communicate with people from all over - my husband and I communicate with our grandson  who points and uses one w

[TruthTalk] Language & Communication

2004-06-02 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: > So, the Holy Spirit is not able to give understanding > if everyone does not see every nuance of language in > the same light? I communicate with people from all > over - my husband and I communicate with our grandson > who points and uses one word. How so? I think Lance's poin

[TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-06-02 Thread Judy Taylor
So, the Holy Spirit is not able to give understanding if everyone does not see every nuance of language in the same light?  I communicate with people from all over - my husband and I communicate with our grandson who points and uses one word.  How so?     From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[TruthTalk] Those who have never heard

2004-06-02 Thread Terry Clifton
Just a few things that maybe we should keep in mind when we begin to speculate concerning those who have never had the opportunity to accept or reject the Gospel: God's ways are higher than our ways. We do not understand every detail concerning His plan for mankind, not was it intended that we

Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-06-02 Thread Lance Muir
No, the problem IS with language itself. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 02, 2004 09:43 Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"language is the house of being" one ough

[TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-06-02 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Judy Taylor wrote: daveh:  ... with all the conflicting beliefs as to what Jesus taught, it would seem like you are suggesting a lot of folks who think they are believers, really aren't believers ...    Davidm: Right...   daveh:... and will end up being tossed i

[TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-06-02 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"language is the house of being" one ought to take care when one objectifies language...   jt: What kind of a statement is this?  Philosophy from Heidegger who some call a Nazi philosopher?   What Jesus meant and what we say he meant may not be the same i

[TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-02 Thread LaurHamm
DAVEH:  I'm hung up on it because I find the popular Christian perception to be very interesting.  To me it is obviously symbolic, but to most Christians it seems to be a literal lake of fire.  Yet (to me) it seems so illogical.That a loving God would punitively punish people who never had th

RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-06-02 Thread David Miller
DAVEH wrote: > From what I've learned previously in TT, anybody > who dies without believing in Jesus is condemned > to the lake of fire. That's because all have sinned. The wages of sin is death. DaveH wrote: > Yet there are literally billions who have lived and > died without even hearing