I’d still love to see you and Kevin
and David Miller protesting Charles
and Camilla’s nerve to show up here to offer moral advice! iz
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Texas Pastor Electrocuted During Baptism
Monday October 31, 2005 2:01
AM
WACO, Texas (AP) - A pastor performing a baptism was electrocuted inside his
church Sunday morning after grabbing a microphone while partially submerged, a
church employee said.
The Rev. Kyle Lake, 33, was standing i
http://www.stpetetimes.com/2005/10/30/Tampabay/Spiritual_symbiosis__.shtml
cd: This is real good information brother and I am saving it for future use-but we somehow are miscommunication. I am not saying that Jesus isn't the Morning Star. You are giving me a lot of Info that points out whom Lucifer is-but I am of the opinion that these sources you gave have been tainted
cd: I'm ready- when and where and where do I find the money to go? By the way sister we are not protesters-The police give us that title and try and put us in the same group as the peace marchers and the like- but we prefer preachers :-)
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I am saying that the two words or ideas can be used with the same meaning. there is more to "sin" than the violation of law. We are saved from condemnation by the unilateral action of God in Christ. We are saved from ourselves, our personal lusts and vain desires as we partner with Him. Ep
Of course they are not protestants they existed before the protestant movement.Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH: I was under the impression that Baptists are Protestants. Here's a WIKI definitionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptist.Do you consider them non Protestant,
I don't accept fairy tales.
What if I gave you a list of Succesive heads of the Baptist church going all the way back to John the Baptist? We would need to have a history of that Church to go along with the names.
As far as Peter how did he become a Pope? There is absolutely no history that the
If it is morning star then it atributes a fall to the morning star who is Christ.
That is a serious error and Blasphemy.
There is absolutely NO "STAR" in the verse Helel is not star, "kokhav" the word for star is not in there.
Ok there is a lot of data here. I was trying to show that the great D
In the last few weeks
Peace Protest in DC
Outfest Philly
Black Muslim Nation of Islam DC
Ohio State Football Columbus
Salt Lake City Mormon General Conference
Local NYS
Gas, hotel (beats sleeping in a car), airfare etc $300 -$500 gets expensive!
But then again look at all the money we saved not g
What if I gave you a list of Successive heads of the Baptist church
going all the way back to John the Baptist?
DAVEH: Can that be done?
You and I both agree regarding the RCC claim. But, at least they
lay some claim to a historical right to the priesthood authority. Do
you know of a
DAVEH: Then why are they defined as Protestants? When did they
first take on an identity?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Of course they are not protestants they existed before the
protestant movement.
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH:
I was under the impression that Baptists a
DAVEH: Do you accept that the Reformers adopted it due to their
familiarity with RCC doctrines? IOW, had the RCC folks not been using
it, do you think the Reformers would have taken it as their own doctrine?
BTW.It is not altogether surprising that some early Mormons
believed it, as
DAVEH: Do you acknowledge that the shoe could be on the other foot?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
And, Dave, what if that indeed is so!
*what if Dave is deceived and is indeed paying homage to Satan
without knowing it*
DAVEH: Perhaps that is why it's futile to discuss LDS theology with
an
Good—so just preach to them
Brother!!! (I’ll pray the Lord drops the money on you from one of
those open windows!) iz
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CD wrote:
... didn't birth of the RCC have roots that trace back
to Constantine I, The great in 306 ad-337ad as he fought
under the Christian flag and Christianity became a national
movement under the proceding Emperors?
All Christians can trace their roots back to the time of Constantine. The
Kevin wrote:
Else who were the RCC murdering before the middle ages?
Do you have some particular group in mind?
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http
How can they possibly claim Apostolic succession, when they did not exist?
As far as the Baptists:
200Cardinal Hosius (Catholic, 1524), President of the Council of Trent:
"Were it not that the baptists have been grievously tormented and cut off with the knife during the past twelve hundred year
DAVEH:
I was under the impression that Baptists are Protestants.
Here's a WIKI definition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptist
Perhaps the following paragraph describes Kevin's perspective:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabaptist
Apostolic succession
Another popular theory is that the
Some folks claim baptists come from Holland and Roger Williams, but as I have shown quotes by even enemies of baptists that date them to before the reformation, it can not be so.
So who was the founder of the baptists?
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH: Then why are they defined as P
I believe the Reformers tried to rely on the scripture alone as best they could.
I can plainly see the T - doctrine in the scriptures so I have no problem with one even discovering it purely from a reading of the scriptures Alone! SOLA SCRIPTURA! NO Church authority or Pope or Tradition or Prophe
Thanks DM I hope this clarifies some things AFA the RCC, for DH
David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
CD wrote:> ... didn't birth of the RCC have roots that trace back> to Constantine I, The great in 306 ad-337ad as he fought> under the Christian flag and Christianity became a national> movement
Do you have some particular group in mind?
No particular group other than the RCC was trying to exterminate those that disagreed with RCC doctrine & practice. Those being primarily the continuous line of True Believers down thru time. These were folks who could have just said OK whatever you say t
Prior to the beginning of the Middle Ages (~500 A.D.), can you give me
any specific example of the "RCC" trying to exterminate those who disagreed with
"RCC" doctrine and practice?
The Arian versus Trinity controversy could be considered perhaps one of the
tensions of the fourth century tha
DAVEH:
Do you accept that the Reformers adopted it due to their familiarity with
RCC doctrines?
There is no doubt that tradition is a powerful force, even among those who
break away from what they consider to be bad tradition. Nevertheless, there
is evidence that the Reformers believed the T
DAVEH:
Did not the early apostles (mentioned in the Bible) possess
the authority of God? Do you know of any who you are
certain had the authority as was given by the Lord who
lived after they (the Biblical apostles) died?
I think St. Martin might be a proper example, but rather than get bogged
I do not believe the Organized RCC extend back to the time period.
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> Prior to the beginning of the Middle Ages (~500 A.D.), can you give
> me any specific example of the "RCC" trying to exterminate those who
> disagreed with "RCC" doctrine and practic
Dave wrote:
BTW.It is not altogether surprising that some early Mormons
believed it [the Trinity], as most of them came from Protestant stock, and
would have been versed (and biased) in Protestant doctrines.
It was not a matter of a few "biased" people believing in the Trinity...I
und
You failed to answer my question, as you often do. Well, what is your
answer?
As for me, no, I am not willing to acknowledge that the shoe could be on the
other foot. I believe the Bible. Do you think the Bible teaches that
Christinas worship Satan? Be areful here...you could be committing the
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Dean Moore wrote:
Andyes, you are correct. Sometimes I have had meaningful discussions with you, e
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Of course they are not protestants they existed before the protestant movement.
cd: I told him the same thi
Cd: Thanks that makes sense-good information.
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> CD wrote:
> > ... didn't birth of the RCC have roots that trace back
> > to C
cd: OK- we slow down.
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If it is morning star then it atributes a fall to the morning star who is Christ.
That is
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Goodso just preach to them Brother!!! (Ill pray the Lord drops the money on yo
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I still wonder what Jeff's affirmation of the Trinity meant to him
DAVEH: My interjection did not prevent you from continuin
Hold your umbrella upside down. J
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