[TruthTalk] Fw: repentance sin and everything

2006-02-21 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: February 20, 2006 22:43 Subject: repentance sin and everything I came across this section on the first of Luther's 95 theses and thought of the sinless perfection discussion: We commit the same error nowadays,

[TruthTalk] Let 'Haliburton' = Sin

2006-02-21 Thread Lance Muir
To Rush Limbaugh Haliburton and, by extension, Cheney can do no wrong. To the critics of Haliburton and, by extension, Cheney can do no right. IFO view Haliburton and, by extension, Cheney as somewhere in between. It depends upon the criteria brought to bear on the analysis. I look at

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance sin and everything

2006-02-21 Thread Judy Taylor
I have to leave the house so can't give this a thorough going over but what strikes me off the top is the quote below along with reference to CSL and TFT; So whatiscorporate about personal responsibility even though a moral ppl will in turn make a moral nation? The apostle Peter addresses

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance sin and everything

2006-02-21 Thread David Miller
I think Martin Luther and many of the reformers were wrong in their concept of sin and repentance. This was the cultural mindset then, that the depravity of man was so great that nothing could be done about it. Their thinking was that everybody sins even when they are unaware of it. This

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance sin and everything

2006-02-21 Thread David Miller
Lance quotes Debbie: How can we deny that we share in this corporate responsibility, and does that not also count as sin? She makes a good point here. I think of Daniel 9 when I read this. Daniel's prayer shows him confessing his sins and the sins of his people (Dan. 9:20). Moses too found

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance sin and everything

2006-02-21 Thread David Miller
Lance quoted Debbie: There is no point saying we are only a little bit sinful, even if we are David and sin only every third or fourth day. I agree that there is no point in saying we are only a little bit sinful. Who is this David she is talking about? Did she really mean to say every

Re: [TruthTalk] Let 'Haliburton' = Sin

2006-02-21 Thread David Miller
I don't follow Rush Limbaugh much, but I am skeptical of the assertion that he thinks Haliburton and Cheney can do no wrong. Are you using a little hyperbole to make a point? In any case, it is dangerous to talk about natural men and compare that to what happens when one is placed into

Fw: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance sin and everything

2006-02-21 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: Victor Shepherd To: Lance Muir Sent: February 21, 2006 09:44 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance sin and everything First, who is David Miller? His theological understanding is wholly wide of the mark. Two, Debbie is a surer guide. Victor

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance sin and everything

2006-02-21 Thread David Miller
This coming from someone who reasons with"First" and "Two" instead of "First" and "Second" or "One" and "Two"? 1. Please ask Victor to elaborate on how my theological understanding is wholly wide of the mark. Such a statement does not convey to us any greater understanding of the issues

[TruthTalk] Truth Gossip

2006-02-21 Thread David Miller
Lance quotes Debbie: a false rumour has the power to destroy a person. Considering the truthfulness of this statement, I would like to clarify some things because it has come to my attention that John is engaging others on this forum in gossip about me. John tells me that he will not courtesy

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth Gossip

2006-02-21 Thread Marlin halverson
Dear David Miller, I believe that my first post was critical of the way that members were treating one-another. Soon after, I found myself to be a recipient of ad hominem remarks. Since that time I have been very sparing with what I have contributed to the forum. Thank you David Miller,