Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
But the "the ones being sanctified" refers back to the action of the first part of the verse, not that the action or santification is a continuous process in need of completeion that is not in the Mood of the greek.David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, you are reading an English

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Nevertheless, when we read the text, it seems to me that we really all agree on what is true, that we are all sanctified, and we are all in the process of being sanctified, at the same time.I gree with you here, but with reference to the verse I believe it refers to the first portion of the

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH -'having a blast 'sporting with us folks' says Kevin

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Boy that is a GOOD Reason!Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Sounds like you are now guessing, Izzy. Interestingly, listening to you persuades me to remain in my religion.ShieldsFamily wrote: If you were listening to the Holy Spirit you would not persist in your cult

RE: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Vote Row L!ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Pity Party? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:15 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH -'having a blast 'sporting with us folks' says Kevin

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Should stand in God's court too.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Boy that is a GOOD Reason!Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Sounds like you are now guessing, Izzy. Interestingly, listening to you persuades me to remain in my religion.ShieldsFamily wrote: If

RE: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
But the problem does not justify the wholesale removal of words phrases verses from God's word.ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Lance, what does that have to do with anything regarding the Word of God? Whether America and the West remain on top or China takes over,

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
And the latter are talking heads sort of like skin filled with others ideas and no place to DOTry reading a book on car repair then rebuild an engine Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I grant you that Terry. However misguidedhe is brandishing his hate-filled signs, one must

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Very Insightful David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evaluating the New International VersionLance wrote: For all who suffer from 'KJVitis' I'd suggest a healthy dose of prayer, humility, critical thinking and, study.Hmmm. I think "faith" fits in better where you put "critical thinking."

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
he is brandishing his hate-filled signsHerein Lance reveals his real PROBLEM. He sees God's word as HATE Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I grant you that Terry. However misguidedhe is brandishing his hate-filled signs, one must acknowledge that he is out there doing/saying

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is not because you do not have good answers for some of the questions? it is not because some things do not fit nicely inside of your theological house of cards and might jeopardize the structure?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We give you all you ask for to be examined under Satan

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
We are only asking: what are your personal qualms with the version? Now you were saying? What color is your car? Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK then. I grew up on it. I read it. I enjoy it. I've memorized great gobs of it. I sell it in our store. My first gift to my wife was a KJV

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
ation:Think globally. Consider every believer and, the 'translation' from which they are reading. How many are reading the KJV. What are the implications?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 21, 2005 17:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailin

RE: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
http://watch.pair.com/another.html In 1851, publisher Daniel Macmillan suggested to two Cambridge professors that they participate in an interesting and comprehensive "New Testament Scheme" that is, to undertake a joint revision of the Greek New Testament. Privately and without authorization of

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
nslation I'd recommend to a new believer. #1. TNIV #2. NLT ----- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 22, 2005 12:08 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htmWe are only asking: what are your personal qualms with the version? Now

RE: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Uzzah Jehudi like Westcott Hort!Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:http://watch.pair.com/another.html In 1851, publisher Daniel Macmillan suggested to two Cambridge professors that they participate in an interesting and comprehensive "New Testament Scheme" that is, to underta

RE: [TruthTalk] DaveH -'having a blast 'sporting with us folks' says Kevin

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Pr 19 There are many devices in a man's heart; nevertheless the counsel of the LORD, that shall stand.Would you consider a "SEDUCING" Spirit to be one which manipulates or tugs on feelings?ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't manipulate me into feeling guilty, DaveH. (Why do

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
lk this one up to my naivete and move on to the next disagreement. :-)Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:LOL : ) That was really funny If instead of Paul's "Greetings to the saints" we get "Shout out to my homies," That is it, a translation for all One for th

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
I already supplied the example of Ezekiel doing some things I would not even think of doing! Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can be and, I am Christine. Your Dad undoubtedly acts from, in his opinion, the moving on the Holy Spirit vis a vis his signage. Other than when speaking with

Re: [TruthTalk] Linking feminism and homosexuality

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
a fellowship what a joy divine! Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes! Yes! Yes! I have stopped beating my wife. It is the last translation I'd recommend to a new believer. #1. TNIV #2. NLT - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
I do not accept anything that Kevin says asauthoritative. When you rip a person's comments out of context,you can pretty much make a case for anything and you have done just that.-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
ine:For your consideration:Think globally. Consider every believer and, the 'translation' from which they are reading. How many are reading the KJV. What are the implications?-Original Message -From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
By the way, the administrators to whom I have carried my message from God are Christian leaders! Are you sure about that? One thing I am absolutely sure about is they are not leaders but Followers! Where are they leading? To the ditch?David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lance wrote: Other than

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Some seem to think it is not possible to make a reasoned nor a biblical case for preaching against these already defiled vile garments.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: `- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/21/2005 11:00:27 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
And all the Jews supported Idol worship and groves just before the captivity, so what is your point?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ALL I DID WAS ASK A QUESTION? Do you know what a "question" is Dean? Do you know what a question is not? I don't think so. I could care less about your explanation on the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
ection, in this scripture, is a done deal -- Him dying ONCE AND FOR ALL TIME for us. JD cd: Am I to understand you to mean that one doesn't learn and grow-one is already perfect?-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 21

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Go figure. Is that celar enough? Jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:31:31 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!And all the Jews supported Idol worship and groves just before the captivit

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
the past tense) than the actual present tense.In the English, this past tense translation circumvents ENTIRELY the impact of sanctification as ongoing event by another in our lives. JD-Original Message-----From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue,

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
The fact that we are perfected forever has been determined by the action of Jesus Christ. When god looks at us He sees Jesus. This is our Standing with God it is based on the Righteousness of ChristWhen man looks at a christian he sees a different pic. This is called our State. It sepends on

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
supports this kind of "preaching." But of course, they are all wrong and you and smudge mouth are right. Go figure. Is that clear enough? Jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:46:43 -0800 (PST)S

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
fected; hence the translation:"For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified." Bill- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/re

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Blue letter Bible Lexicon The present tense represents a simple statement of factor reality viewed as occurring in actual time. In most casesthis corresponds directly with the English present tense.Some phrases which might be rendered as past tense in Englishwill often occur in the present tense

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
em that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body. Bill- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorWell m

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
--- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorSo the two different translations are BOTH True? You see the same meaning conveyed by: NIV because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
and Judy did, which isdemonstratedin your ongoing argument against the present passive aspectof thisparticiple.Bill- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorMy point is it i

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
ctification as ongoing event by another in our lives. JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:34:48 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorWhat greek text is that?Not NA 27 or 26!L

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
l present tense must be a KJV thingy Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Not in my NASB 1974 no marginal note on Heb 10:14Sorry my "Interlinear Literal Translation of the Greek New Testament" Berry April 2005 reads as the KJVNo I agree the past tense "circumvents" EN

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
lost your wayin that regard. You have no clue how to discuss with people you consider the enemy. You can't do it -- so you go the way of thebrat and start slinging mud and waving underwear. You want to have a discussion, I am for it. JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
se of obedience (if perfection and sanctification are the worksof another), and to the full gospel message of the Indwelling? A pretty powerful message is in this passage. Jd -----Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 2

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
wayin that regard. You have no clue how to discuss with people you consider the enemy. You can't do it -- so you go the way of thebrat and start slinging mud and waving underwear. You want to have a discussion, I am for it. JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
/revisorOK Kevin God has spoken ... so now forever hold your peace.On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:13:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin asks Shouldn't it be translated "BEING MADE PERFECT"? No.- Original Message - From: Kevin De

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
ngs.Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorNo, Kevin, "being" does not affect the "MOOD" of the verb; i

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
e is forced to agree that it is a less accurate translation (the past tense) than the actual present tense.In the English, this past tense translation circumvents ENTIRELY the impact of sanctification as ongoing event by another in our lives. JD-Original Message-----From: Kevin Deegan openai

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Proof texts?Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorNo, Kevin, "being" does not affect the "MOOD" of

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
th them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body. Bill - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorWell my point was the word is at

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
Maybe you could share what you see as wrong with the content of what he said. This is a Prime example , therefore there must be all kinds of errors and problems in his speech. Just what specifically are yours and other LDS complaints?A list would be helpful.I think the list is this. We

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
I think all the conversions were young people, say 19 to 30 years old.Do you think once a mormon always a mormon?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean Moore wrote: I have preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ at many gatherings including the Mormon Temple. ,Catholic Churches, Mormon

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
NOT FLESH BLOOD*...it was not an issue. However, since Jesus has a physical body of /flesh and bone/, then it might give one reason to ponder whether or not his Father in heaven might also be likewise composed. Kevin Deegan wrote: _*If he is a MAN what is that man made of?*_ *Gingerbrea

RE: [TruthTalk] DaveH -'having a blast 'sporting with us folks' says Kevin

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
Faith is not belief without proof, but trust without reservations. --Elton TruebloodShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yet Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had said. (Ex 7:13) izFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] legthening the list Dave H. NA's

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heavenWhy is this not the TRINITY? Is 48;16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me. Kevin Deegan

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
Producing specific quotes proves nothing on TT. Not only did you NOT NOT say there is NOT a hell I bet you went to Slidell Baptist! No withdrawals of the charge and that is that. We will consider a break in the action and will resurrect them at some later date. At which you will have to

Re: [TruthTalk] Real Christians behave like Christians

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
the street preachers. The choice Dean presents here is exactly right. Truth vs error, light vs darkness, and life as opposed to death. All of us must choose this day we we will serve Kevin Deegan wrote: Dean is FEATURED on this ANTI-CHRISTIAN site. What EXACTLY is he saying tha

Re: [TruthTalk] Does it REALLY matter that much?

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
If someone is STEALING away the words of Christ as you contend Dean, why get bent out of shape over that?Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:We should take a stand on the issue of translations. I am not saying to shrug and remain unpartial. But to question someone's salvation over the

Re: [TruthTalk] Does it REALLY matter that much?

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
If He used a Jackass it may again be possible for Him to use the NIV.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for sharing your observation Christine, that encourages me because so many Churches use the NIV today. I'm with you in thinking it a horrible translation while ATST I believe God

RE: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
I am not in the LDS Hall of Inflamatory preaching I am a NICE SP Dean is NASTY as you can see in the video. He is doing something the LDS deam worthy of their distain. The guy in the hat is LDS trying to mock and disrupt the preacher. He is not as bad as some, who just mindlessly repeat over

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
If you want to know what Lance THINKS, read the articles he posted by someone else!Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks for the input, Lance. It is always good to hear some thoughtful discourse on the different translations. Am I correct in understanding that you object to my

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
If everyone who believed the KJV was the TRUTH happened to be FUNDAMENTALISTS and they all belonged to Bible Baptist Church of Pensacola Florida, it still has NOTHING to do with the subject at hand. Some would, for lack of any Reasonable argument, like to focus the discussion on the Individual

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
Why did he repent and what part did he repent of? F LOGSDON said "At any rate we went out and started on a feasibility report, and I encouraged him to go ahead with it. I'm afraid I'm in trouble with the Lord, because I encouraged him to go ahead with it. We laid the groundwork; I wrote the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
http://www.wayoflife.org/articles/logsdon2.htm LOGSDON: "Well, he discovered that the copyright [on the American Standard Version of 1901] was just as loose as a fumbled ball on a football field. Nobody wanted it. The publishers didn't want it. It didn't get anywhere. Mr. Lockman got in touch

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
Dean, looks like Logsdon saw it like you!"I must under God renounce every attachment to the New American Standard." Logsdon: "The deletions are absolutely frightening .. there are so many .. Are we so naive that we do not suspect Satanic deception in all of this?"

Re: [TruthTalk] Does it REALLY matter that much?

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
(PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:If He used a Jackass it may again be possible for Him to use the NIV.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for sharing your observation Christine, that encourages me because so many Churches use the NIV today. I'm with you in thinking

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
I thought dean asked for a KJV ERRORInstead he gets a response that deals with INTERPRETATION Dean sees it one way Bill sees it another, that makes the TEXT wrong?BIG DEAL : (Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cd: see the Bottom of page. - Original Message -

Re: [TruthTalk] Real Christians behave like Christians

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
or even focused and in the past I have been told that their sole purpose was to drown out the street preachers. The choice Dean presents here is exactly right. Truth vs error, light vs darkness, and life as opposed to death. All of us must choose this day we we will serve Kevin Deegan wrote

Re: [TruthTalk] Real Christians behave like Christians

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
have been told that their sole purpose was to drown out the street preachers. The choice Dean presents here is exactly right. Truth vs error, light vs darkness, and life as opposed to death. All of us must choose this day we we will serve Kevin Deegan wrote: Dean is FEATURED

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
Not that anyone would DANCE around the subject and focus on the personalities. Alas in this case the wrong ones, as he is LDS.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cd: No I did not have a wad of chew and I am not drunk-Have you not heard of edification to the brethren? - Original

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
KJV For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.New American Standard Bible (NASB) Copyright © 1960, 1962, 1963, 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman FoundationFor by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is OK I think Logsdon went to Slidell[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I denied that a translator repented. Here is what you said: I read somewhere that one of the NASB translators had a change of heart and repented for the part he played in that translation.It is now painfully obvious that an

RE: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
Have you ever protested at an LDS Conference in SLC, or at the site of an LDS Temple or chapel? If notwould you do so? If so, then you would meet the one of the criteria of being an anti-Mormon as LDS folks have coined it. If you haven't done any of those things (or others that might qualify

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is not a question of anything but, you are not worth answering.It is like dealing with a CULTIST. I have better things to do with my time. If anyone else is interestedI will answer the questions forthem. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:"That guy" did not "repent" of anything.Just a silly

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?

2005-11-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
:30 -0800Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?DAVEH: John..ever notice some people can not even help their obnoxiousness?Kevin Deegan wrote: Dean ever notice some people can not even help their lying?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean -- where did you come up with that "f

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?

2005-11-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
I am a creature of a day. I am a spirit come from God, and returning to God. I want to know one thing: the way to heaven. God himself has condescended to teach me the way. He has written it down in a book. Oh, give me that book! At any price give me the book of God. Let me be a man of one book.

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?

2005-11-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
That is for you to answer.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:59:30 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:I am a creature of a day. I am a spirit come from God, and returning to God. I want to know one thing: the way to heaven. God himself has condescended

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?

2005-11-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
I wonder who today has taken away the KEY?Lu 11 ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent:

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?

2005-11-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
Dean ever notice some people can not even help their lying?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean -- where did you come up with that "fact?" Ask Lance, Jonathan,, Billy T, brother Ottoson and I do not think DM is a KJV disciple (exclusive of all other translations.) At any rate -- the opinion of

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-18 Thread Kevin Deegan
FLESH BLOOD??? Why do you make this stuff up, Kevin?Kevin Deegan wrote: Of course He is God always was God and if you do not think He is God you will DIE IN YOUR SINS Jesus said so. JN 8:24 if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. And Jesus answered and said unto him

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-18 Thread Kevin Deegan
In Him dwelt the fullness of the GODHEAD. BodilyJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes because it is in the resurrected Christ that the "fullness of the Godhead bodily dwells" and believers are made complete in Him. During his earthly ministry Jesus was one with the Father who

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-18 Thread Kevin Deegan
Where does the distinction come from that it is in the resurrected Christ that the Godhead dwells? Why not the Christ who walkd this earth? Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Do you believe that IF you were to see Jesus' face now, you would die?Judy Taylor wrote: Yes because

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-18 Thread Kevin Deegan
*If he is a MAN what is that man made of?*_*Gingerbread?**/Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: *THEREFORE as you can see, the Father is NOT FLESH BLOOD* DAVEH: ??? Huh!?!?!?! Who said anything about the *Father *being *FLESH BLOOD*??? Why do you make this stuff up, Kevin? Kevin Deeg

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-18 Thread Kevin Deegan
that the Godhead dwells ONLY in the Resurrected Christ? Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:52:39 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Where does the distinction come from that it is in the resurrected Christ that the Godhead dwells? Why

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-18 Thread Kevin Deegan
bodily.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking more along the lines that Christ (the anointed one) is a member of the Godhead rather than that it all indwelt Him during his earthly ministry - where does the bible teach this?On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:46:27 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
Truth is not a problem but it just seems SO ELUSIVE around here on TTDave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: I don't think the truth would give enemies aid and comfort, do you?Kevin Deegan wrote: could it be called then aid comfort to the enemies of the gospel?Dave Hansen [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
NO Contradiction DH. Jesus is the PHYSICAL representation of God who is an INVISIBLE Spirit!Just like no one but the High priest could go into the Holy of Holies in the Temple but once a year. Even the High Priest would die if he broke rules. Anyone could see the Temple shell that surrounds

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
This, truly, is the most important question. What is important then? Certainly not the FALSE "information" like: "so the 22 weeks was certainly not talking about all of this body of work." What exact work were you refering to then? What work took 22 weeks? Since it was NOT the SUBJECT

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
. Which do you believe, Kevin???Kevin Deegan wrote: It is just as written: EX 3313 show me now thy way EX 33:19 I will make all my goodness pass before thee EX 33:18 show me thy glory EX 33:22 while my glory passeth by Moses asked to see His Glory not His person And God said I will show you

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
ot;God in the flesh"which is contradictory. A local Mormon pointed out to me that if Jesus is God in the flesh then He was praying to Himself from the cross. I don't find scripture contradictory in itself but men's doctrines do make it so. judytOn Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:13:41 -0800 (PST) Kevin De

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
That is FUNNY I am still waiting for an answer of why DH thinks that Ex 33 (the scripture under discussion) God did not say MY name. Why did the Lord sayI will exalt the name of the Lord? DH?Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, the subject line defines the topic I originally brought

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
You brought up baseless allegations like you always do and have avoided my question over over again next thing ya know you'll be claiming King James was a Homo again, that will be your answer to Erasmus.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:S, the KJV is based upon a corrupted Latin Vulgate

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
an immortal resurrected being, as did Jesus. Do you believe Jesus currently has a physical body, Kevin? And, do you believe he is fully God?Kevin Deegan wrote: NO Contradiction DH. Jesus is the PHYSICAL representation of God who is an INVISIBLE Spirit!Just like no one but the High priest could go

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
A couple of posts you said you were done with the subject now you goad me on How long have you had this problem? Which one is the REAL JD?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well, as soon as he comes out of hiding, perhaps. But think about this -- brother Deegan managed to come up with a

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
just chided DH for not answering questions -- THEvery thing you do best. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:05:11 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorYou brought up baseless

Re: [TruthTalk] UNANSWERED ? for DH

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
Temples contain the Holy of Holies? DoesTHE One Only High Priest still go in there Once a year?Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:NO Contradiction DH. Jesus is the PHYSICAL representation of God who is an INVISIBLE Spirit!Just like no one but the High priest could go into the Holy

Re: [TruthTalk] Unanswered ? DH

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
me now thy way" Ex 33:13 What part of His body is associated with His way? What Body part is His Goodness? What part is His Glory? Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Moses saw His back parts, His Glory and His goodness None of which was His physical bodyIf He did see

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
I am not interested in wasting more time on you Even this much is pushing it.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You are pretty good with your excuses. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:29:11 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
If he is a MAN what is that man made of? Gingerbread?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THEREFORE as you can see, the Father is NOT FLESH BLOODDAVEH: ??? Huh!?!?!?! Who said anything about the Father being FLESH BLOOD??? Why do you make this stuff up, Kevin?Kevin Deegan wrote

Re: [TruthTalk] Unanswered ? DH

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
iated with His way? What Body part is His Goodness? What part is His Glory? Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Moses saw His back parts, His Glory and His goodness None of which was His physical bodyIf He did see a body it would have to be jesus as Jesus is the exact physical representa

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
irmament sheweth his handywork.Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Do you deny that Moses saw God, Kevin?Kevin Deegan wrote: Moses said EX 33 show me thy gloryAnd he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Gen 1

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
The Word "similitude" is ALWAYS a representation in the Scriptures It is NEVER used in any other way! It is only a representation not the real McCoy Psalms 144:12 That our sons may be as plants grown up in their youth; that our daughters may be as corner stones, polished after the similitude of

Re: [TruthTalk] Proof that JD is an UNREPENTANT LIAR

2005-11-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
an UNREPENTANT LIAR - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/15/2005 9:48:08 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Proof that JD is an UNREPENTANT LIARAND more DATED MAY 2005 http://www.mail-archive.com/truthtalk@mail.innglory.org/msg3

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
all that matters..is this a lie?The fact that he was a scholar devoted to his work now becomes a NEGATIVE for detractors of the TR. Many some FACTS would be of Interest? OR Maybe not depends on if you are CROOKED, or not.Erasmus is known to history as one of the most prolific writers of

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
SOMEBODY MADE UP THE "22 WEEKS"In this case Facts are NOT Stranger than Fiction! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 22 out of 110 weeks for the NT,by whose hand? On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:42:43 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:1509-14, Erasmus began the great w

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
ine documents. Textual critics are needed to restore the earlier and greek documents .. a much more difficult job. JD-----Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 07:16:07 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re:

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