Slade Henson wrote:
Hello
all.
I
was wondering if you could critique this little bit I drew up this
evening/morning. I give a hearty [and hopeful] "thank you" to those who
participate.
--
slade
Within Jewish circles,
the portion of Torah read over this Shabb
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6/18, Terry wrote:
<<..[On the news] They were talking
about some Catholic bishop somewhere who said that he would not allow John
Kerry to take
communion because of his stand on
abortion.>>
In a message dated 6/18/2004 2:59:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is this Bishop amoral?
Only God is amoral.
John
Hello
all.
I was
wondering if you could critique this little bit I drew up this evening/morning.
I give a hearty [and hopeful] "thank you" to those who
participate.
--
slade
Within Jewish circles, the portion of
Torah read over this Shabbat/Sabbath
is Numbers 16:1-18:32. This por
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 19:56:25 -0500 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
6/18, Terry wrote:
<<..[On the news] They were talking
about some Catholic bishop somewhere who said that he would not allow John
Kerry to take communion because of
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what's his name?
G ~
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I don't have a clue. I can't even remember my own name most of the
time.
Larry, jerry, Harry?
what's his name?
G ~ P
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 19:56:25 -0500 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
6/18, Terry wrote:
<<..[On the news] They were talking
about some Catholic bishop somewhere who said that he would not allow John
Kerry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
6/18, Terry wrote:
<<..[On the news]
They were talking about some Catholic bishop somewhere who said that he
would not allow John Kerry to take
communion because of his stand on abortion.>>
Is this Bishop amoral?
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6/18, Terry wrote:
<<..[On the news] They were
talking about some Catholic bishop somewhere who said that he would not allow
John Kerry to take communion because of his stand on
abortion.>>
Is this Bishop
amoral?
--
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 07:09:34 -0500 Terry
Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
can repent of slavery that was done by the South here, please LET US KNOW. Thank you. Izzy
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Behalf Of Lance Muir
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Terry:Half truths are quite wonderful in that, whichever side you take up
you score a point.- Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 18, 2004 08:09
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(e.g.) does the Vatican's
perception of Amerca's invasion of Iraq originate in liberalism?
whoever thinks it
does, could you allow the Vatican (perspective on) morality
to influence your value system?
G ~ P 235
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In a message dated 6/17/2004 7:49:09 AM Pacific
Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
You might want to rethink this. The only way for everyone
to simplysay, "Amen," is if everyone were c
n a
position to point to things about you that you can't or won't acknowledge
concerning yourself.- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 17, 2004 17:16
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered
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TruthTalk] Bush blundered
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(e.g.)
does the Vatican's perception of Amerca's invasion of
Iraq originate in liberalism?
whoever thinks it
does, could you allow the Vatican (perspective on) morality
to influence your value system?
G ~ P
2
Most definitely not.
The Vatican is full of corruption and there are new
stories of sexual perversion amongst it's priests
in both national and international newspapers
daily. Moral leadership must be lived by example
and it is obvious to those with eyes to see
that the Vatican is no example
(e.g.)
does the Vatican's perception of Amerca's invasion of
Iraq originate in liberalism?
whoever thinks it
does, could you allow the Vatican (perspective on) morality
to influence your value system?
G ~ P
235
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:16:09 -0500
"ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wri
In a message dated 6/17/2004 7:49:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You might want to rethink this. The only way for everyone to simply
say, "Amen," is if everyone were clones of one another and perceived
truth in exactly the same way. The fact is that many do not abide in
t
Lance, I am still waiting to hear what, specifically, America is supposed to repent of
doing to the world. The
gobbledygook below says absolutely nothing. (America
is supposed to repent of India
under Britain? America
is to repent of that? and
Africa under America?
What is that? Do you wa
From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Anyway, do you think our trip into Iraq might parallel this idea, perhaps as
a judgment on Iraq?
It's possible, Perry. I know that Iraq was a very unhappy and tortured place
under Hussein. He is a bad man.
Bill
--
"Let your speech be alwa
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Lance Muir wrote:
DavidM:I so want to take you seriously. I so want to believe that you
don't
feign ignorance of something when yo
Terry:A hint of mockery at poor old Lance
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From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: June 17, 2004 15:07
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> Lance Muir wrote:
>
> >DavidM:I s
Lance Muir wrote:
DavidM:I so want to take you seriously. I so want to believe that you don't
feign ignorance of something when you're not.I so want not to be reminded of
Clinton saying "It all depends what is is" but, I am. The words
evidentialist, rationalist, biblicist & fundamentalist come to m
Judyt: Thanks.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 17, 2004 13:34
Subject: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in
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From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>DavidM:
I so want to take you serious
Judyt:Hate? Guess which is the operative 'mood' in
many of YOUR posts?
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 17, 2004 14:49
Subject: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in
his preemptive move
From: "David Miller&quo
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>I cannot take you
seriously, Lance, because you never even try to answersome simple
questions. Watch out that you do not assume the role ofresident mocker
on this list.
jt: Too late - the "resident mocker" role has
already been taken by one who cons
DavidM:Not 'never' David. Sadly, I did mean most of what I said concerning
yourself.
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: June 17, 2004 13:54
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Lance wrote:
> I so want to take you seriously.
I cannot take you seriously, Lance, because you never even try to answer
some simple questions. Watch out that you do not assume the role of
resident mocker on this list.
Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
--
"Let you
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>DavidM:
I so want to take you seriously. I so want to believe that you
don'tfeign ignorance of something when you're not. I so want not to be
reminded ofClinton saying "It all depends what is is" but, I am. The words
evidentialist, rationalist,
biblicis
construction.
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: June 17, 2004 10:48
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> Lance wrote:
> > WHAT, in my opinion, GOD DOES NOT DO is to convey
> > your & Izz
Lance, I don't know which question you are answering. Can you go back
through my post and answer each question right after the section you are
answering?
No, I am not a TV evangelist or a log cabin Republican, and I am not
confused except concerning why you avoid answering simple questions.
Peac
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: June 17, 2004 10:48
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> Lance wrote:
> > WHAT, in my opinion, GOD DOES NOT DO is to convey
> > your &am
Lance wrote:
> WHAT, in my opinion, GOD DOES NOT DO is to convey
> your & Izzie's 'reading' of it on all matters.
How do you know? Did God tell you this?
Lance wrote:
> You, David, are sufficiently informed
> to know that.
I understand that we each grasp truth from a different perspective,
em myself.
I'll mention two things 'Western' to take under consideration: India under
Britain & Africa (read the slave trade) under America.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: June 17, 2004 06:22
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Lance wrote:
> 'any student of prophecy in Scripture..'would what??agree
> with your 'reading' on the matter? In my opinion, many
> 'students of p' have lead many down many 'garden paths'
> Any student of history/culture would acknowledge this.
No, I am not talking about "agreeing with my 'read
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I wonder, Perry, Do you think that this is how God gets "godly" leaders to
do his will -- i.e., he removes his
ay, do you think our trip into Iraq might parallel this idea, perhaps as
a judgement on Iraq?
Perry
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> In Habakkuk 1 we are told that God raised the Chaldeans (today known as
> Iraq) against Judah. Are we to believe that the Chaldeans knew they were
> doing God's will
From:
David Miller
Bill
Taylor
offers the following emphasis on Davids post:
"George Bush did not decide
to invade Iraq. God
did. God simply used Bush as his pawn."
I hope you understand my use of hyperbole
here. I was saying it this way to stress that
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hope, John, that you have stayed in tuned enough to notice the quotation marks around my comment. I'm still tryin' to decide if my vote matters. Shoot, I'm still tryin' to decide if I can decide if my vote mat
>
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:54:35 -0400
DavidM:'any student of prophecy in Scripture..'would what??agree with your
'reading' on the matter? In my opinion,
had no agenda. Bush decided
on his own 'hook' to invade Iraq.
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From:
David Miller
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 16, 2004 07:49
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered
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Bill
Taylor
offers the foll
Bill
Taylor
offers the following emphasis on David’s post:
"George Bush did not decide to invade Iraq. God
did. God simply used Bush as his pawn."
I hope you understand my use of hyperbole
here. I was saying it this way to stress that God had a plan that he was
accomplishing throug
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Izzy
opines >
.but not against his will. J
How, if "Bush did not decide,"
could you ever know, Izzy?
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think.
H
bill
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In a message dated 6/15/2004 6:14:34 PM Pacific
Daylight Time, [EMAI
in his preemptive move
"George Bush did not decide to invade Iraq. God did. God simply used Bush as his pawn."
Maybe the solution is this: that God uses circumstances, events, calamities, celebrations, prosecutions and the like ("all things") to accomplish His will.
Did God ever make you do anything that you did not decide? Iz
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Izzy opines
uthTalk] Bush blundered
in his preemptive move
Hi
David,
This question is as much for
Izzy as it is to you. A while back Izzy made some very definite statements
concerning the importance of free will and the moral imperative on God's
….but not against his will. J
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Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 6:02
PM
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"George Bush did not decide to invade
"George Bush did not decide
to invade Iraq. God did. God simply
used Bush as his pawn."
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"George Bush did not decide to invade Iraq. God
did. God simply used Bush as his pawn."
Hi David,
This ques
And your box Lance? TFTorrance and Polanyi with
Calvinistic overtones?
From what you write to TT it appears obvious
that your wisdom comes from
movies - since most of your quotes come from
them. If anyone uses a quote
from scripture here you
bring up the box theory and how noone really unde
on matters
prophetic).
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: June 15, 2004 06:58
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> Lance wrote:
> > ... to what shall we attribute this response
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: June 15, 2004 06:03
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> David Miller wrote:
> >> In other words, God is orchestrating the political
> >> boundari
Lance wrote:
> ... to what shall we attribute this response?
> Well, inconsistency.
What do you think is inconsistent in my response?
My response seems very consistent to me, but then, you already knew
that, didn't you? :-)
Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
--
oken people can invariably make a more convincing
case for that which is nonetheless false. Case in point.
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: June 15, 2004 06:39
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive
David Miller wrote:
>> George Bush did not decide to invade Iraq. God did.
>> God simply used Bush as his pawn.
Bill wrote:
> how might you reconcile the above statement with free will
> -- Izzy's given that we have it and that God will not violate
> it in anyone?
I did not have any problem w
David Miller wrote:
>> In other words, God is orchestrating the political
>> boundaries that exist between countries, who
>> is in power and who is out of power.
Lance wrote:
> There's no 'orchestration' that I can see.
How then do you read the book of Daniel? Do you think the book of
Daniel is
not), because He is not a
puppeteer."
> - Original Message - > From:
"David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Sent: June 14, 2004 14:30> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
Bush blundered in his preemptive move> > > > Lan
>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: June 14, 2004 14:30
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> Lance wrote:
> > I've read and, do read the book of Daniel. I do not see
> > a connection between it's meaning and present day events.
>
> Da
Lance wrote:
> I've read and, do read the book of Daniel. I do not see
> a connection between it's meaning and present day events.
Dan 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and
twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help
me; and I remained ther
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
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From: ShieldsFamily
Sent: 06/08/2004 10:16 PM
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Chris
did live in Arkansas until recently. I wont tell you why he left, but
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> Lance wrote:
> > Your President made a decision on behalf of your
> > nation to invade another country. I'd say that
> > calls for commendation or blam
Lance wrote:
> Your President made a decision on behalf of your
> nation to invade another country. I'd say that
> calls for commendation or blame. I choose the latter.
I commend Bush for following God on this one.
Lance wrote:
> His choice to enter, sort of by invitation,
> Afghanistan was an
In a message dated 6/8/2004 8:17:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: Don't be ridiculous Chris, why do you seem to revel in lies and half truths? Your Hebrew words
don't change a thing. It's another spirit Chris and I would not continue listening because it lies.
blundered in his preemptive move
From: "Chris Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hmmm ...
George Bush reportedly mocked her request before denying it.
jt: Reported by who? The above is
serious heresy and character
assassination.
Heresy?!?!?!
From: "Chris Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Hmmm
... Protecting one of your own?
jt: Don't be ridiculous Chris, why do you seem to revel
in lies and half truths?
I don't. I asked a question ... jt turns that into "lies and half
truths". Please note she did not say, "no".
jt: The lies and ha
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
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From: Judy Taylor
Hmmm ... Protecting one of your own?
jt: Don't be ridiculous Chris, why do you seem to revel
in lies and half truths?
I don't. I asked a question ... jt turns that in
From: "Chris Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hmmm ...
George Bush reportedly mocked her request before denying it.
jt: Reported by who? The above is serious heresy
and characterassassination.
Heresy?!?!?!?
jt: Yes - you are reporting something that
allegedly happened that you were not pr
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
Hmmm ...
George Bush reportedly
mocked her request before denying it.
jt: Reported by who? The above is serious heresy
and character assassination.
Heresy?!?!?!?
jt: Henry Lee Lucas was not a child molester, n
Chris, I wouldn't trust "vaticanassassins.org" or
anyone else involved in spreading the half truth/lies and conspiracy
theories below even though I was sickened to see George W. Bush presenting an American Freedom
Award to the head of an apostate organization that holds so many millions of
s
Would you really want to endorse anyone that Chris approved of?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:52
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Bush
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Izzy
From: "Chris Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>From:
Judy Taylor
JT: I want to ask Chris why he would think that
this is the Holy Spirit speaking to him vs some other spirit?
CB: Well, the short answer is in John 10:27.
jt: "His sheep hear His voice?" So you believe
you are His sheep and Geo
Izzy:
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Sent: June 07, 2004 16:07
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The
most profound endorsement of President Bushs character Ive ever readChris
word
The most profound endorsement of President Bush’s character I’ve
ever read—Chris’ “word from the Lord” against him. Izzy
While in prayer the day before the election of 2000
The Ruach ha Kadosh (The Holy Spirit) spoke to me of the presidential election,
"The man who
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
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From: Judy Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06/07/2004 12:03 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his
preemptive move
JT: I want to ask Chris why he would think that
this is the
inion. Terrorists are bad
people. Squish 'em and put 'em through a blender.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 07, 2004 13:03
Subject: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in
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I want to ask Chris why he would
I want to ask Chris why he would think that this is the
Holy Spirit speaking to him vs some other spirit? How do you know, do you try
the spirits to see if they are of God and if so, how so?
To Lance, why accuse Bush and his aides for the
condition of the world. It was already in peril when
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
Sent: 06/07/2004 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in
his preemptive move
This site has the caption: TruthTalk. Bush and his
aides have placed the world
This site has the caption: TruthTalk. Bush and his
aides have placed the world in peril and, are certainly absent 'truth talk' when
it comes to speaking of it.
These are your sons and daughters making good (with
their lives) the Bush invasion of a sovereign nation.
Afghanistan was a neces
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