Judy: "The Mosaic covenant was a revelation of God's holiness and His desire for a holy people. The Hebrews had found themselves in bondage to Egypt because they were transgressing the Abrahamic covenant (they were not obedient to its conditions) and so God gave them a tutor or schoolmaster in the form of law until the time of the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham." (Gal 3:23-25) Bruce: Sister, can you be specific about the "conditions" of the covenant which God made with Abraham which were violated by Israel which violations became the reason why they were in Egyptian bondage?? Where does scripture state this idea??
Judy: We know that because of his faith Abraham pleased God and it was counted to him for righteousness - Abraham was called a friend of God or a 'friend of the covenant. ' The patriarchs found themselves in Egypt (the house of bondage) because being moved with the sin of envy they sold their brother Joseph to the Ishmeelites who brought him to Egypt. God promoted Joseph who was a man of faith with the fear of God in his heart. When tempted by his bosses wife Joseph's response tells where he was at spiritually ie: "how then can I do this great wickedness and sin against God?" So God blessed and promoted Joseph and things were seemingly well with Israel until another king arose over Egypt who knew not Joseph (Acts 7:18). By this time the Israelites had lost the knowledge of God for when Moses tried to defend one who was being mistreated and minister to them "they understood not" (Acts 7:25) I wrote:"Note that Hebrews 9:1 describes that what was vanishing were the ordinances of divine service and the worldly sanctuary and not God's Law (which includes the statutes and commandments) because according to (Jer 31:32-34, Jer 32:40, Ezek 37:26, Heb 8:10) had been put into their minds and written on their hearts. Bruce: Sister, I would remind you that the worldly sanctuary of Heb. 9 along with it's furnishings, the ark the cherubim etc had passed away centuries before Hebrews 9!!! Judy: The tabernacle in the wilderness may have been gone but this was emulated in the three temples that followed. Herod's temple was still standing until 70 AD. Bruce: Also Heb.8:10-12 does NOT say that God would put His "statutes and commandments" into their hearts but rather His LAWS. Judy: It is my understanding that Moses wrote all of them in the Book of the Law or Torah. Bruce: Deut. 4:13 defines the specific contents of the covenant that was first made with them children of Israel as THE TEN COMMANDMENTS! This is precisely the first covenant (Heb.8:7-9) which decayed, waxed old and was ready to vanish away when the Book of Hebrews was written nearly two millenia ago! Judy: I don't think so Bruce and the reason I don't think so is because of 1 Cor 6:9-11 "Be not deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God...." This is the Law of Christ in the heart to which we are bound and as obedient children we are to walk in holiness. Note Idolatry is the 1st and 2nd commandment of the 10 commandments, adultery is the 7th commandment, thievery is the 8th commandment, reviling is the 9th commandment, and covetousness is the 10th commandment. Bruce: The "book of the law" in which the curses were written (Gal.3:10) was the Book of Deuteronomy! See Deuteronomy 29:21; 30:10; 31:26; Joshua 1:8 Such was only a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ and we are NO LONGER UNDER THAT SCHOOLMASTER, BUT ARE RATHER THE CHILDREN OF GOD BY FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS! (Gal.3:21-26) Judy: Don't forget the condition - We are not under condemnation (the curse) so long as we walk after the Spirit rather than after the flesh (Rom 8:1,2) I wrote: "God never did dwell in temples made with hands; Acts 7:48 refers to the prophet Nathan who told David to do what was on his heart but later returned with a word from God see (2 Sam 7:5-17). Vs.13 does not refer to Solomon because we know that Solomon did not have an everlasting kingdom, in fact it was divided and he lost it. Bruce: Exodus 25:8 specificly tells us that that children of Israel were to build the tabernacle as a sanctuary so God could dwell among them. Judy: Yes and they had to build the tabernacle according to the pattern; God gave them the dimensions and it is a picture of Christ. God met them there at the mercy seat. It is called the tabernacle of witness. He did promise Moses that he would lead them during their time in the wilderness. Bruce: True, it was a TENT and NOT a HOUSE as II Sam.7 states. But AFTER "Solomon's temple was built, God did dwell there! Judy: Where do you find validation for this Bruce? God gave no pattern for Solomon's temple - He did allow them to use His name there and He said they could pray from there but He never ever wanted a temporal house of cedar(2 Sam 7) Bruce: The Lord Jesus stated repeatedly concerning the temple in Jerusalem that it was HIS FATHER'S HOUSE! God also dwelt in the bush, where Moses met Him! See Deut.33:16. Judy: Where Bruce? I see Matt 2:13 where he calls the temple a 'house of prayer' that had become a den of thieves.(also Lk 19:46); John 2:16 says the same about a house of merchandise; then in Vs.19 He challenges them to destroy this temple (his body) and in three days he would raise it up and then John 14:2 "In my Fathers house are many dwelling places, if it were not so I would have told you" Continued ..... ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." 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