Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-30 Thread Terry Clifton
 Blaine: You honor me too much. I am not a street preacher.  Just a dirty old sinner, saved by grace.   Terry:   Billy goats definitely have choice--just not in matters of religion. Thanks for acknowldging that I have choices. Until now, I was pretty sure you Street Preachers were all about i

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
Terry: Billy goats definitely have choice--just not in matters of religion. Thanks for acknowldging that I have choices. Until now, I was pretty sure you Street Preachers were all about imposing your views on us whether we wanted them or not. Does this mean you have repented? Now, go and get t

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
Ruben wrote: Another Good Point here Kevin. Is it me or have you noticed that Judy has argued with Dean, Kevin, me and now Jim Webber. Is she one of these I've got to have the last word type people or do we have a contentious woman. Judy may we speak to your husband for a minute? Blaine wrote: A

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-30 Thread Kevin Deegan
Ruben, this must be Bobbies Alter Ego[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is typical of e.g. Catholics..'I went to Rome (on TV), I saw/heard the Pope, his muttering sounded cool--he must be JCs vice president in charge of the earth..that'll be 100$ a month for the rest of your life, please, regardless

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-30 Thread ttxpress
This is typical of e.g. Catholics..'I went to Rome (on TV), I saw/heard the Pope, his muttering sounded cool--he must be JCs vice president in charge of the earth..that'll be 100$ a month for the rest of your life, please, regardless of whether your baptized children get to sleep with a pri

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-30 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/29/2003 11:53:03 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy     On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:38:12 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:   I wouldn't be too quick to mock Ruben

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread ttxpress
    On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:38:12 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:   I wouldn't be too quick to mock Ruben-for I believe him to be one of the great men of our age-as a matter of fact I would fear to mock him at all.     your respect, above, is similar to the res

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread Terry Clifton
Sorry to have to break this to you Blaine, but there are no degrees of lost.  You are either saved or lost.  Almost does not count .  The good news is that even though the billy goat has no choice, you do. Terry   Blaine wrote:   How lost would I have to be in order to be "lost as a Billy go

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/29/2003 12:53:33 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy no, Dean--kindly notice the (original) smile -->:)  [and if you haven't done so, read Kevin's post, today, about JC 'stood a

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
That was funny! ROTFL!! Blaine On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:51:44 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > this is _truth talk_ --what do you expect her to do, curtsy and kiss > your > pontifical ring? > > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 07:22:24 -0800 "irebukeu" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > Is it me or h

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread ttxpress
  this is _truth talk_ --what do you expect her to do, curtsy and kiss your pontifical ring?   On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 07:22:24 -0800 "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> Is it me or have you noticed that Judy has argued with .. me

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Dean wrote: "He came unto his own first -and thru rejection-turns to the world-which included the Samaritans." Blaine wrote: The above is more of what I call Tradidtional Christian Belief System (TCBS). Jesus said he was not sent BUT to the lost sheep of the House of Israel (Matt 15:24).

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Terry writes: "Mormons say you can die as lost as a Billy goat and still be saved by someone being baptized for you." Blaine wrote: How lost would I have to be in order to be "lost as a Billy goat," Terry?On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being Totally Lost, and 1 being not lost at all--perfec

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread irebukeu
Judy: I think you need to stop going into flights of fantasy and entertaining people with your humor Ruben and begin to deal with reality. These are peoples lives you are dealing with. What if you are hardening them against the truth? Kevin: And WORSE yet what if you NEVER even TOLD Them? Ruben:

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread Kevin Deegan
I think you need to stop going into flights of fantasy and entertainingpeople with your humor Ruben and begin to deal with reality. Theseare peoples lives you are dealing with. What if you are hardeningthem against the truth? Kevin: And WORSE yet what if you NEVER even TOLD Them?   [EMAIL PROTECTED

[TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judy: I guess the same way you see all Mormons headed for hell and publicly expose and ridicule them in front of their own temple, provoking them to wrath and glorying in same. Ruben: So you would have a problem with both Jeremiah and Jesus who knocked and cond

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-28 Thread ttxpress
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:43:15 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:       - Original Message - From: Jim Webber To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/27/2003 1:58:05 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-28 Thread ttxpress
d, as presented in, e.g., the gospel of Luke? g ottoson :: http://poet235.com       On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:43:15 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:       - Original Message - From: Jim Webber To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-28 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Jim Webber To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/27/2003 1:58:05 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy WRONG!Matt 10:2727 "What I tell you in the darkness, speak in the light; and what you hear {whispered} in {your} ear, proclaim

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-28 Thread irebukeu
Judy says: Jesus did not yell, scream Ruben: For starters look up the word "preach" in Webster's, Greek or Hebrew. Or allow the Bible to define Bible with Bible: How could Jesus teach or preach to large multitudes without raising His voice? Do you think he whispered to everyone individually with l

[TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-28 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judy says: Jesus did not yell, scream Judy: That's right, he didn't get out in public and yell and scream about repenting or going to hell like today's Street Preachers do. Kevin: Bible sys: IS 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, an

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
Ruben, The "days of Elijah" reference is Malachi 4:1-6 -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EM

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-27 Thread ttxpress
what's this, another mechanized bible thumpin', bein' applied so humorlessly, too, to an underwareless ministerial minstrel in mormanland?    i'd offer you some poignant verses of _knockin' on heaven's door_.. e.g., "ma, wipe the blood offa my face, i can't take it anymore..", however, it a

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-27 Thread Jim Webber
WRONG!Matt 10:2727 "What I tell you in the darkness, speak in the light; and what you hear {whispered} in {your} ear, proclaim upon the housetops. 1Thes 4:1616 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout..   yeh; so, till then, keep your yaps shut :)

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-27 Thread ttxpress
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 20:00:53 -0800 "Jim Webber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: 1Thes 4:1616 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout..   yeh; so, till then, keep your yaps shut :) ps :: What does this mean(?): John 7:37..Jesus stood and cried..   g ottoson :: http:/

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-27 Thread Jim Webber
, December 26, 2003 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy Judy says: Jesus did not yell, scream   Bible sys: IS 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins

RE: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-27 Thread Dean Moore
> [Original Message] > From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 12/26/2003 8:57:33 PM > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy > > Judy wrote: > > I wouldn't liken  Mormons to the religious leaders

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
Judy says: Jesus did not yell, scream   Bible sys: IS 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins. John 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, l

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-26 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 12/26/2003 8:34:14 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mormons, on rhe other hand, have little respect for God I disagree with this.  The Mormons I know seem to respect God.  They, IMHO, are misguided but I can't say I have noticed a disrespect for God.  Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-26 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 12/26/2003 7:55:42 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wouldn't liken  Mormons to the religious leaders > of Israelwho were into apostasy. Mormon teaching > is mixture from the start and more like that of the > Samaritans who the Jews treated as untouchable a

[TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-26 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No comparison. The Samaritans were regarded as a bastard people, Jews who had intermarried with Gentiles. They had been rejected by the Jews as unclean, more similar to a leper than a Mormon. They still had great reverence for the true God, and worshipp

[TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-26 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi David: I want to respond to your other message but we have been keeping the grandkids and I'm feeling terminally tired right now so will probably wait until in the morning. Just wanted to address your last point here... Judy wrote: > Since He is our ex

RE: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-26 Thread Terry Clifton
    I think Judy has a good point here. What do the rest of you think? If we consider Judaism as a religion, don't you think that the relationship of the Samaritans to Judaism is a good analogy of the relationship of Mormons to Christianity? = No compar

RE: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-26 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: > I wouldn't liken  Mormons to the religious leaders > of Israelwho were into apostasy. Mormon teaching > is mixture from the start and more like that of the  > Samaritans who the Jews treated as untouchable and > unclean - Jesus did not yell, scream or emulate > any of their pagan

[TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-26 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Judy:Actually I was not the one who made this connection - it was one of youwho told me on this list something to the effect that 'these are the daysof Elijah' and that it is the spirit of Elijah out there confronting ppl.Sorry Ruben but at least you are a

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-26 Thread ttxpress
"the days of Elijah..the Elijah spirit which the Scriptures teach..the hard line message increasing..the age of grace is coming to a close..peace be with you.."??    what's this, DavidM, a neo-conservative Think Tank?   g ottoson :: http://poet235.com

RE: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-26 Thread David Miller
Ruben wrote: > "it was one of you who told me on this list something > to the effect that 'these are the days of Elijah"??? > I said this??? Maybe it was another argument with someone > else, but I would not say that, only because I do not know > what the "days of Elijah" is. So if anyone els

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-26 Thread irebukeu
Judy: Actually I was not the one who made this connection - it was one of you who told me on this list something to the effect that 'these are the days of Elijah' and that it is the spirit of Elijah out there confronting ppl. Sorry Ruben but at least you are asking a question this time rather than