RE: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
And what might that be, Lance? Lance?? Are you there, Lance??? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:59 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-04 Thread Lance Muir
Other than being about 25 years out of date (Francis Schaeffer a 'giant'?) it is good to note that people know who he was. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 03, 2005 23:21 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Warning!!!

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
Schaeffer has lots of company Bill. What is to misunderstand when we have Barth's own words on the subject and how could such a great voice say something like this: The Bible Not the Word of God “Barth was right to speak about a distance between the Word of God and the text of the Bible”

RE: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, must one be up to date on the trendy side of Christianity, Lance? Give me that old time religion! iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:36 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-04 Thread Lance Muir
I listened to and, transcribed some 550 hrs of FS lectures. I do believe myself to be in a position to pass comment on FS. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 04, 2005 11:38 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Warning!!!

RE: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Then why dont you pass comment, Lance, instead of passing judgment? What specifically is out of date about that godly man IYO? izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 12:59 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-04 Thread Lance Muir
That 'godly man' was, is, will be a 'godly man' His work in some areas was far superior than in others. His supreme achievement, IMO, was the establishment of L'abri Fellowship. He opened it to all, he engaged culture wholly and, he invited believers to embrace their faith thoughtfully and

RE: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Agreed. But once again you have ducked the question which you stirred up. What do you find out of date about FS work? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 1:14 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re:

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-04 Thread Lance Muir
His work in philosopjhy was weak. An excellent philosopher, Tom Morris, did a rather detailed appraisal a year or two after his death. By the by, there's no 'ducking' going on here. Were I or others to discuss his work at any length you would be bored; as David said just yesterday he was

RE: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
It just seems to me that if FS spoke truth, then that cannot be out of date. Worldly dross can be, but not truth. FS did not seem full of the world to me. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 1:36 PM To:

RE: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
IHO see the web site.ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Then why don’t you pass comment, Lance, instead of passing judgment? What specifically is “out of date” about that godly man IYO? izzyFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 12:40:34 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JD writes: Stop with the lie, Judy. You have nothing to back up your claim but when has that slowed you down in the past. You want Barth to be a threat THEREFORE he is. He spent his lifetime presenting the

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-03 Thread Lance Muir
The inerrancy debate and the search for Emus are on a par with one another.(Extinction is the word) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 03, 2005 12:54 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Not hardly Lance; Where did you get the idea that emus are in danger of extinction? There are emu farms here in the US. We visited one in Mississippi. So this is about as factual as your views on scriptural "inerrancy" Oh well! It's not as though we haven't beenwarned. "He that is unjust,

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-03 Thread knpraise
The ICBI is defunct, as far as I know. Your network copy skills have manifested themselves with abundance in the following. Hats off to Judy and the party line ! The fact of the matter is that no one offers any real evidence . You knownothing of Barth's personal battle against some

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 15:10:19 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The ICBI is defunct, as far as I know. The ppl involved have reorganized and I am not a part ofthis; I used the fact that they organized to fight this neo-orthodoxy in making a point tocounter your constant

RE: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Wow. Really eye opening information from Francis Schaeffer. Now thats a real indictment, coming from such a giant as him. Thanks, Jude. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 11:41 AM To:

RE: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, sureemus are being wiped out by global warming and overpopulation. I cant sleep for worrying about them all. zzizzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 12:36 PM To: