RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 8:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers Izzy, I like your spirit. You probably have the gift of service or one

RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, Dont make me laugh! I am happy that we agree on something. (Do you always think the worst of a person???) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 10:33 PM To: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] If Christmas is a sin, then Thanksgiving is a sin.

2002-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Hey Glenn, does that mean that if YOU are not in the Bible, we have permission to ignore you??? Now that might be something to be thankful for! (Just kidding!) J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
I have always been taught that sin is violating Gods laws. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers Agreed,

RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
No offense, Michael D, but I dont really take your opinion too seriously, since you didnt even know where to find the 4th Commandment. You cannot understand the NT well if you are uninformed about the OT. It leaves you open to misunderstanding His word. They are not two separate books;

RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Wow; what do you mean by that??? Izzy -Original Message- Jesus Christ transcends all religions, and he is within all religions. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man.

RE: [TruthTalk] If Christmas is a sin, then Thanksgiving is a sin.

2002-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
You mean kind of like ignoring the elephant in the living room? (Or should I say turkey?) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
David M, I can agree with that. That's why I don't try to argue much with folks. I will only discuss things until I see whether the person is really interested in growing in their understanding, (or if I have something to learn from them). And sometimes getting into a good argument helps me to

RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- David Miller wrote: Understand also that as you move toward observing Shabbat in this culture, you are changing our culture. You are bringing in a culture that is more Jewish. This is a step toward full Torah observance, not just of the seventh day, but also of

RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Cool! What a godly heritage. Do you still witness together from time to time? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, I think you are missing the point about Marlin. He just turns the other cheek by not responding to insults and condemnation. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:59 PM

RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No offense, Michael D, but I dont really take your opinion too seriously, Michael D: Hey, Izzy, there's probably some good advice for me somewhere in there... You know, we are encouraged

RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, If they looks like insults, sound like insults, and hurt feelings like insults---well, Id call them insults. Maybe Marlin does, too. (I bet you didnt sweet talk your wife into marrying you like that!) J And the Lords bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able

RE: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, Yes, I agree to that. I still need an atoning offering for my sin, but Jesus is it. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Torah

RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:TruthTalk- I don't want to fall from grace, but would I not be falling from grace by not holding to Gods standards?(Heb. 10:28-31). -Peter Exactly right, Peter! That's the whole point! If you aren't trying to gain salvation by

RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law

2002-11-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Peterson For truth's record, however, do you believe that everyone who keeps the law of God (or tries to) will automaticaly be placing themselves in the depraved condition that you describe? Is

RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law

2002-11-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, Thanks for the pointers. Im so glad they dont apply to me! J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 7:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] California Letter

RE: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-29 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, Are you implying that because we now have a better sacrifice, through the Blood of Christ, that we can spiritualize away the 10 commandments? Do we no longer need to stop lying and committing adultery? Do we no longer need to rest on the day that the Lord rested? The animal sacrifices

RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law

2002-11-29 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, My dear friend, why is it that whenever you quote scripture it is proof of your correctness, but when Marlin quotes scripture it is proof that he is of the devil? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law

2002-11-29 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Miller Here we go again with your insecurity about salvation. Somehow whenever works is talked about, salvation is always drug into the discussion by those who holler about saved by grace the

RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law

2002-11-29 Thread ShieldsFamily
I am sorry to hear that the Apostles were fallen from grace. This makes you saved and them lost! Does that seem rational? You are painting yourself into a corner. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law

2002-11-29 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, That is entirely your point of view, based on your personal biases. Anyone who uses scripture to defend an opinion which is not the same as yours is not necessarily proof-texting or taking out of context. Hugs, Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-30 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:TruthTalk- Not spiritualize AWAY, no. The law is like a schoolmaster to teach us right from wrong. However, the law works with the will, and man will find that his will is not enough to bring him into complete obedience.

RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law

2002-11-30 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Peterson What is the curse of the law? I would guess you could say the curse of the law is that (1) It is the penalty for breaking the law. Gods judgment. Death. (2) It is the

RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law

2002-11-30 Thread ShieldsFamily
Marlin, You have to keep in mind that while Glenn is not a sinner that he does sin! He is very emphatic about that point. He also gets very angry at David Miller for saying that he does not sin! Go figure! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law

2002-11-30 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: ShieldsFamily [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 10:53 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law

2002-11-30 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:TruthTalk- What is the curse of the law? The curse of the law is no mystery. The curse of the law is plainly stated in Deuteronomy 27 28. This is the passage that is referred to in Galatians 3. A person who is

RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law

2002-12-01 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, I stand corrected. J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law This can be

RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law

2002-12-01 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, I am glad you dont think that Marlin was persecuting you, but was telling you the truth. J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

RE: [TruthTalk] Thanksgiving

2002-12-01 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson OT law could be kept in the letter without the spirit. The change is not an abolition of OT law, as today's mystery of iniquity Christianity tries to promote because they do not love

RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law

2002-12-01 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, Why dont you ask him if he actually READ the book against the book of abrahamIm not sure he did. J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[TruthTalk] Christian as identity

2002-12-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
Marlin, Thanks for the response. I take it you are not of Jewish (physical) descent? I think your reasons are quite understandable. If I'm not mistaken, I think David Miller has a problem with calling himself a Christian, also--am I right David? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Christian as identity

2002-12-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
Amen, and amen! Izzy Words, words, words. I just love Jesus and I follow Him. I obey Him. All other names fail. Love, Marlin

RE: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law

2002-12-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, I told you so! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 6:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] California Letter Legalism and the Law Blainer) Why would I want to do

RE: [TruthTalk] Circumcision

2002-12-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Here are some health reasons for circumcision: http://www.billgothard.com/topics/circumcision.php Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
DaveH, To me, many mansions means many mansions. Not too difficult to interpret, huh? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 12:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

RE: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
DaveH: I dont suppose you think the Book of Mormon is one of your books? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 1:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cowards DAVEH: I'm

RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
As opposed to hell, which is one BIG room? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers Without taking the

RE: ****** SPAM ***** RE: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
DAVEH: I suspect we interpret it differently, Izzy. That's why I'm asking the questionto find out how other TTers think there are going to be a variety of rooms or whatever in heaven. Sois rooms the way you believe the passage should be interpreted? If that (rooms) is the

RE: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
You were told there is a book that PROVES that your scriptures are wrong. You refused to read it. What does that tell everyone about you? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002

RE: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2002-12-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
I see the Trinity as Father (the Sun star); Jesus (the sun rays which you can see here illuminating the earth); Holy Spirit (the sun which you can feel warming you here on earth). Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk]testimony

2002-12-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:23 AM VERY IMPORTANT PS. PS. I don't have my Christmas card or new leather jacket from you yet. Is the mail slow? :-) Since I like you so

RE: [TruthTalk]testimony

2002-12-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Julie, Thanks so much for your testimony. It is very sweet and touching. I hope you will write more here, as I would very much enjoy getting to know you better. I can relate to your statement that you have been blessed since beginning to observe the Sabbath. It is something one cant

RE: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Darlene, Please don't go away--the women here are vastly outnumbered!!! (Fortunately, Laura and I have been able to out-think them all.) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of darlene j dowling Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:39 PM To:

RE: [TruthTalk]testimony

2002-12-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, What makes you think I dont work? BTW, what do you do all day besides harass poor Marlin? (Youre right; the mormons have brought upon themselves whatever abuse you dish out. ROFL!) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of

RE: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
? :-) Hey, is everyone on TT in agreement with King Herod, the atheists, Marlin, and the Muslims? WHERE OH WHERE ARE MY CHRISTMAS CARDS? Blainer) I respectfully disagree--with almost all you said!!! On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 20:30:50 -0600 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Blainer, You have

RE: [TruthTalk] I thought the boys were the big stinkers!

2002-12-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
DaveH, You are talking about yourself! ROFL! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 11:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] I thought the boys were the big stinkers!   ShieldsFamily wrote

RE: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2002-12-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Perry, This is a good post. So true. The mormons will never go for it. :-) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Locke Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity Hi DaveH,

RE: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
DaveH: The fact that you could suspect David Miller of reducing himself to ploys shows your complete ignorance of his integrity. When David says something, he really means it. Accept that and you will be much smarter. And David has real feelings, like the rest of us. So why would you think he is

RE: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, Maybe you should check out the latest in Christmas gadgets at http://www.woai.com/news/cyberstuff/story.aspx?content_id=74C892BC-4269-44F2-BA11-31CB614FDCE4. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent

RE: [TruthTalk] What do you believe, Dave

2002-12-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
If the mormons qualify as Christians, then I resign! Izzy (NOW what do I call myself? I guess I'll be a Hebrew like Marlin. What is it you call yourself again David?) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Tuesday, December

RE: [TruthTalk] What do you believe, Dave

2002-12-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, Because mormons are polytheists, and followers of someone other than Jesus Christ, and need an additional set of scriptures to the Bible. That will do for starters. Marlin refers to himself as a Hebrew for the very reason that so many folks call themselves Christians who are

RE: [TruthTalk] What do you believe, Dave

2002-12-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, What I hear is you insulting Marlin. God can speak for Himself, in His own way, in His own time. I dont think He will need your help if thats what He wants to do. You say that Marlin attacks you, but you are the one who attacks Marlin. This puts you in a bad light, whether you

RE: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Youd better ask Laura to do this. J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cowards Yea, I forget to even check it most

RE: [TruthTalk] What do you believe, Dave

2002-12-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- DAVEH: As I understand it, polytheism is the pagan worship of pagan gods. Though there may be many gods, to us (LDS) there is one supreme God to worship, our Heavenly Father, AND his Son Jesus Christ who is our Lord and Savior. Therefore, I would

RE: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- BUT BUT BUT if one argues with a women they will lose EVERY TIME. Therefore, I didn't say this. :-) My claiming not to have said this, is my using Mormon wisdom. :-) See, you do teach me some things. :-) Glenn, you are wiser than these mormons. J Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Perry, You are right on. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Locke Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cowards Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:As to why I want to know

RE: [TruthTalk] What do you believe, Dave

2002-12-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Blainer--No I am way IN; you are way OUT! :-) Our image means Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Izzy, I like your attitude, 'cause it is soo way out! I like someone who is either very

RE: [TruthTalk] What do you believe, Dave

2002-12-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
. Joseph Smith is not the Lord. DAVEH: I never said he was. He was simply a prophet of the Lord. That is not true. He was a false prophet. What on earth makes you think you need more than the Lord revealed in His word? DAVEH: As Perry suggested, there seems

RE: [TruthTalk] What do you believe, Dave

2002-12-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
DAVEH: I'm not sure how you think I'm manipulating you. What is it that I have said that bothers you? Do I make you feel insecure? No way you could do that! ROFL! Or do you just feel uncomfortable discussing religion with somebody who has vastly different beliefs? Give me a

RE: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, I think youre a jolly old elf at Christmas. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 7:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cowards There are 2 Jesus

RE: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, You are so much more palatable when you have been taking your medication. Thanks. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 8:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

RE: [TruthTalk] What do you believe, Dave

2002-12-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Miller Not a fair deal, because the BOM is so much bigger than the book I was offering you. David, You are right about that not being a fair deal. So, since none of you have taken

RE: [TruthTalk] What do you believe, Dave

2002-12-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What do you believe, Dave ShieldsFamily wrote: Whether LDS theology is right or wrong..many of those who practice it do it with great sincerity.I dont doubt the sincerity of your LDS beliefs. I doubt the sincerity of your search

RE: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Glenn's birthday is July 2, the year is so long ago I can't remember. ...

2002-12-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, However your lump of coal is in the mail. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 7:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Glenn's birthday is July 2, the year

RE: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, Why are you so sure that Blainer saw them on TV Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cowards I don't know

RE: [TruthTalk] What do you believe, Dave

2002-12-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
, December 14, 2002 3:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What do you believe, Dave ShieldsFamily wrote: BLAINER, YOU HAVE PROVED MY POINT: THERE IS NO POINT IN TRYING TO TALK TO MORMONS. YOU JUST GO AROUND IN POINTLESS, STUPID CIRCLES. I QUIT. IZZY DAVEH: BLAINER

[TruthTalk] Pros and Cons of Christmas

2002-12-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
For an excellent article about the pros and cons of celebrating Christmas: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29995. It is from WorldNet Daily at ( www.wnd.com ) and Whistleblower Magazine. Izzy -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know

RE: [TruthTalk] Pros and Cons of Christmas

2002-12-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
Yes. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Pros and Cons of Christmas PREIssy, Do you put up a tree or other decorations? Laura

RE: [TruthTalk] Logic

2002-12-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
So how many legs does Glenn have??? Huh? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 8:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Logic On Sat, 14 Dec 2002

RE: [TruthTalk] Garner Ted's Armstrongs cult church and Old Testament law kee...

2002-12-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
That link came from the World Net Daily website. They have a lot of very good Christian commentary on that website, plus news articles. I think several people were quoted in that particular article. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On

RE: [TruthTalk] Garner Ted's Armstrongs cult church and Old Testament law kee...

2002-12-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, What is the name of his church? You know Hank Hanagraaf, the Bible Answer Man on the radio? He loves to run down a lot of Christian leaders as heretics, etc. Yet it seems that he has said that Armstrong has repented of his past wrong beliefs, etc, and he accepts him as a real

RE: [TruthTalk] What do you believe, Dave

2002-12-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
thought you were going to quit when DavidM declared we LDS folks are Christians too! ;-) ShieldsFamily wrote: Well talk then; maybe it will clear your head. Izzy - ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I

RE: [TruthTalk] Hitler and Marlin

2002-12-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
I dont think he lied. I think he was just making a point. Jesus did not say, Now this is a parable, he just told the story. I dont think he is sneaky. I think he just doesnt want to do whatever you want because you are antagonizing him. I will assume the best of Marlin until it is proved

RE: [TruthTalk] Hitler and Marlin

2002-12-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
The mormons have already been proven otherwise by believing in a confirmed liar, JS. Izzy -Original Message- Are you going to assume the best of the Mormons in order to be consistent? I will assume the best of Marlin until it is proved otherwise. Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Hitler and DaveH (let's see if he answers this one)

2002-12-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
Okay, Gary, Why do you keep referring to yourself as a Corinthian? To me that would not be a compliment. And by the way, why do many of your posts leave me with the lingering feeling that you must have had a dissipated youth in which you smoked one too many funny cigarettes?

RE: [TruthTalk] Hitler and DaveH (let's see if he answers this one)

2002-12-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, Glenn, youre just a flatterer! J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hitler and DaveH (let's see if he answers this

RE: [TruthTalk] Hitler and Marlin

2002-12-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
Marlin: FYI, calling you a conservative would be a great COMPLIMENTyoull never hear that from Glenn. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [TruthTalk] Hitler and DaveH (let's see if he answers this one)

2002-12-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
Marlin has already informed you all that he does not sell any Christmas related products. So have a field day. Isnt it fun to ridicule Marlin? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19,

[TruthTalk] Once saved, always saved?

2002-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, I was wondering what your position is on the once saved, always saved issue. I dont swallow it. I dont think you do either, but I wanted to verify that. Izzy PS It is hard for me to believe the Holy Spirit told you anything about Marlin because your attitude towards him seems so

RE: [TruthTalk] Once saved, always saved?

2002-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- Glenn, I was wondering what your position is on the once saved, always saved issue. I dont swallow it. I dont think you do either, but I wanted to verify that. Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Once saved, always saved?

2002-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Golly, I never knew you were so easy to persuade! And I dont even believe in that doctrine myself! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 6:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

RE: [TruthTalk] Once saved, always saved?

2002-12-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, I think you are being facetious. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Once saved, always saved? I know you don't

RE: [TruthTalk] Once saved, always saved?

2002-12-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
Glenn, I think your conclusions are irrational. J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Once saved, always saved? I

RE: [TruthTalk] Once saved, always saved?

2002-12-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- I also have given Marlin a tough time but my point is that he seems to think that I am not right with God if I don't adhere to his beliefs. I have no problem with him believing whatever but it is when he trys to say that I have to believe the same thing that

RE: [TruthTalk] Once saved, always saved?

2002-12-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Once saved, always saved? Glenn, It may be difficult for you to understand that I have

RE: [TruthTalk] Crucial Doctrines

2002-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, I like that answer. Thats what I have to do when I get overwhelmed by the complexities of theology or life: go back to the basics. Did God not make it possible for a little child to be saved? Have you ever known a child with Downs Syndrome who lit up at the name of Jesus? Surely

RE: [TruthTalk] Once saved, always saved?

2002-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
Excellent question, Laura. Might it not be possible that everyone is free to do either? Who can answer this? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 12:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [TruthTalk] Crucial Doctrines

2002-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
), and that is the one true church that Jesus established. Perry Original Message Follows From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Crucial Doctrines Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 08:26:22 -0600 A general question for all TT'ers

RE: [TruthTalk] Crucial Doctrines

2002-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dear Perry, Marlin and all, Sorry that I haven't been able to write for a while- I have been SO BUSY!!! I had not checked my inbox enough, and the hotmail account got full, and must have started sending back mail. I re-joined, however, and now I believe that I am

RE: [TruthTalk] Crucial Doctrines

2002-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- as our former TT'r Glenn once said (God rest his eSoul), Perry Too funny! Perhaps a moment of silence is in order? Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Crucial Doctrines

2002-12-23 Thread ShieldsFamily
Perry, David Miller has never said that he has never sinned--otherwise he would not need a Savior. If I am correct, he has said that he believes scriptures teach that Christ came to set us free from sinning any more after receiving Him as our Savior. What if His blood not only (1) atoned for

RE: [TruthTalk] The Law

2002-12-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. (Gal 3:7) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. (Gal 3:29) That the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, and of the same body, and partakers of

[TruthTalk] I Cor:13 on Christmas

2002-12-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
First Corinthians 13, Christmas Version If I decorate my house perfectly with plaid bows, strands of twinkling lights and shining balls, but do not show love to my family, I'm just another decorator. If I slave away in the kitchen, baking dozens of Christmas cookies, preparing

RE: [TruthTalk] The Law

2002-12-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
I appreciate your permission. J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Law Naw, I'm not testy. I am really a

[TruthTalk] Russian believers ban Christmas tree

2002-12-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Russian believers ban Christmas tree: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2002/12/25/003.html#top Izzy -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to

RE: [TruthTalk] The Law

2002-12-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- David Miller said: What is contrary to grace is when people put their confidence in their law keeping to make them right in God's eyes. For example, if a man thinks that observing the seventh day makes him in right standing before God, that God looks upon

RE: [TruthTalk] The Noahide Law

2002-12-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thanks, Perry--very interesting! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles P. Locke Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 10:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Law Terry, and others, I have an interesting book

RE: [TruthTalk] The Law

2002-12-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
' in, DavidM; and, you and Marlin oughta be takin'responsibility for gettin' Izzy dizzy; now she's gettin'to whereshe can't tell Izzyism from Judaism: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 20:42:02 -0600 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Original Message- David Miller said: What

RE: [TruthTalk] The Law

2002-12-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- I do not pretend to know all that the Bible teaches, but I am satisfied that all I need to know is there. Terry Terry, I guess you don't need to know the Theory of Relativity. Or how to use your computer. :-) Izzy -- Let your speech be always with grace,

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