RE: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-20 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Good suggestion, Tom. Thanks. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Tom Herbert [mailto:t...@herbertland.com] > Envoyé : jeudi 20 juillet 2017 17:39 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN > Cc : Joe Touch; Olivier Bonaventure; Internet Area; tsv-area@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleb

Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-20 Thread Tom Herbert
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 8:26 AM, wrote: > Re-, > > Please see inline. > > Cheers, > Med > >> -Message d'origine- >> De : Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] >> Envoyé : jeudi 20 juillet 2017 16:37 >> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; Olivier Bonaventure; Internet Area; tsv- >> a...@ietf.org >>

RE: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-20 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] > Envoyé : jeudi 20 juillet 2017 16:37 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; Olivier Bonaventure; Internet Area; tsv- > a...@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment o

Re: Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-20 Thread Joe Touch
On 7/19/2017 11:19 PM, Olivier Bonaventure wrote: >> How do you know you're using the converter? Is the initial connection to >> that converter? Or does the converter hijack (the latter is the >> implication of the text, AFAICT). > > Consider a simple implementation using LD_PRELOAD to overload th

Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-20 Thread Joe Touch
On 7/19/2017 10:43 PM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: > ... >>> The converter is not intended to be used for all TCP connections. In >>> the draft we explain how an MPTCP endpoint can bypass the converter if >>> the destination server supports MPTCP. For TCP-AO, my recommendation >>> would b

Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

2017-07-20 Thread Joe Touch
On 7/19/2017 10:39 PM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: > Hi Joe, > > The text can always be worked out. This is not an IETF LC :) Agreed - I was explaining that the current text - and many of the responses in this chain, both from you and others, continues to be confusing. > The main point