[tsv-area] Testing ECN support for UDP flows

2009-08-20 Thread Ingemar Johansson S
Hi Sorry for the cross-post, I would believe that it is best to reply to tsv-area only. I have previously asked people regarding the support of ECN especially for UDP flows.. There seems to be a lot of uncertanities around this and in general it is difficult to get any clear view (if there is

Re: [tsv-area] Testing ECN support for UDP flows

2009-08-20 Thread ken carlberg
Ingemar, This particular response may be best for the ICCRG list and its research view of things, but would it be possible to accomplish some of what you want to do directly or indirectly through PlanetLab? I don't recall the connectivity requirements and layout for PlanetLab, but to avo

Re: [tsv-area] Testing ECN support for UDP flows

2009-08-20 Thread Piers O'Hanlon
Hi Ingmar, I found that one could do some quite useful tests using (on Linux) traceroute -t hostname. Linux machines seem to reflect the TOS byte contents even in ICMP error responses and ICMP echos. Though DSCP bits are usually reset the the ECN bits are more resilient... Since traceroute uses U

Re: [tsv-area] Testing ECN support for UDP flows

2009-08-21 Thread Ingemar Johansson S
Hi Tried with an MS-Windows version of tracert (ftrace), it was supposed to be able to set the ToS field. However it seems like when I run wireshark that the modified ToS field does not stick, it could be some Windows specific feature that simply clears the ToS field. I will try some traceroute

Re: [tsv-area] Testing ECN support for UDP flows

2009-08-21 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Ingemar Johansson S wrote: Tried with an MS-Windows version of tracert (ftrace), it was supposed to be able to set the ToS field. However it seems like when I run wireshark that the modified ToS field does not stick, it could be some Windows specific feature that simply cl

Re: [tsv-area] Testing ECN support for UDP flows

2009-08-21 Thread Piers O'Hanlon
2009/8/21 Mikael Abrahamsson : > On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Ingemar Johansson S wrote: > >> Tried with an MS-Windows version of tracert (ftrace), it was supposed to >> be able to set the ToS field. However it seems like when I run wireshark >> that the modified ToS field does not stick, it could be some

Re: [tsv-area] Testing ECN support for UDP flows

2009-08-21 Thread Piers O'Hanlon
2009/8/21 Ingemar Johansson S : > Hi > > Tried with an MS-Windows version of tracert (ftrace), it was supposed to be > able to set the ToS field. However it seems like when I run wireshark that > the modified ToS field does not stick, it could be some Windows specific > feature that simply clear

Re: [tsv-area] Testing ECN support for UDP flows

2009-08-21 Thread Ingemar Johansson S
Hi I tried the netsh command but still it does not seem to work. The problem is also that the test app seems to do a SYN with ECE and CWD set, this is correct, according to RFC3168 the server should respond a SYN-ACK with ECE, this does not happen however, still the test app marks the test as

Re: [tsv-area] Testing ECN support for UDP flows

2009-08-23 Thread Ingemar Johansson S
mar Johansson S > Cc: tsv-area; iccrg; Colin Perkins; carlberg; Mikael Abrahamsson > Subject: Re: [tsv-area] Testing ECN support for UDP flows > > 2009/8/21 Mikael Abrahamsson : > > On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Ingemar Johansson S wrote: > > > >> Tried with an MS-Wi