LEDBAT doesn't help sharing network beyond home gateway

2011-07-28 Thread Bob Briscoe
Jana, You asked the basis of what I just said in TSVAREA. I said in a residential network, LEDBAT won't yield to traffic sharing any queue upstream of your own home gateway queue. LEDBAT's target delay is 150ms. A typical shared link in such a network will be 1Gb/s. 150ms of queuing into a

RE: LEDBAT doesn't help sharing network beyond home gateway

2011-07-28 Thread Murari Sridharan
Bob, agree & great point. -Original Message- From: tsv-area-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:tsv-area-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bob Briscoe Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 8:24 AM To: Janardhan Iyengar Cc: led...@ietf.org; tsv-area IETF list Subject: LEDBAT doesn't help sharin

Re: LEDBAT doesn't help sharing network beyond home gateway

2011-07-28 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Bob Briscoe wrote: LEDBAT's target delay is 150ms. What about loss? If there is a RED profile that starts dropping at 30ms and has 100% drop at 100ms, would LEDBAT behave mostly like TCP? I agree with other posters in this thread that at 100ms, LEDBAT will only lessen

RE: [ledbat] LEDBAT doesn't help sharing network beyond home gateway

2011-07-28 Thread Rolf Winter
t > Subject: [ledbat] LEDBAT doesn't help sharing network beyond home > gateway > > Jana, > > You asked the basis of what I just said in TSVAREA. I said in a > residential network, LEDBAT won't yield to traffic sharing any queue > upstream of your own home gate

Re: [ledbat] LEDBAT doesn't help sharing network beyond home gateway

2011-07-28 Thread arvid
Quoting Sampo Syreeni : > On 2011-07-28, Bob Briscoe wrote: > > > I said in a residential network, LEDBAT won't yield to traffic sharing > > any queue upstream of your own home gateway queue. > > > > LEDBAT's target delay is 150ms. I thought the LEDBAT target delay was 25 ms, but I might have m

Re: [ledbat] LEDBAT doesn't help sharing network beyond home gateway

2011-07-28 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2011-07-28, Bob Briscoe wrote: I said in a residential network, LEDBAT won't yield to traffic sharing any queue upstream of your own home gateway queue. LEDBAT's target delay is 150ms. Target delay, but also a one designed to mimic the minimum delay over the whole path? No? A users's ups

RE: [ledbat] LEDBAT doesn't help sharing network beyond home gateway

2011-07-29 Thread Woundy, Richard
rom: ledbat-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ledbat-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ar...@cs.umu.se Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:35 PM To: Sampo Syreeni Cc: Janardhan Iyengar; led...@ietf.org; tsv-area IETF list Subject: Re: [ledbat] LEDBAT doesn't help sharing network beyond home gateway Quoting Sampo Sy