On Dec 28, 2007 4:00 PM, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Implementation-bpel was OK. I have added implementation-widget and
> implementation-data-api.
>
> On Dec 28, 2007 4:59 AM, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Good point Haleh, implementation.bpel should not be excluded,
> > implementation-data-api should not either as it's being used in the
> > store tutorial scenario. Let me check if I can fix this on the
> > distribution files...
> >
> >
> > On Dec 27, 2007 7:51 PM, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi Simon,
> > > Thank you for trying to get a release candidate ready during the
> holidays.
> > > Why is implementation.bpel excluded?
> > >
> > > Haleh
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/21/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 19, 2007 10:18 AM, Rajini Sivaram <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Simon,
> > > > >
> > > > > No, I don't have an ID yet. Please do the update for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you...
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Rajini
> > > > >
> > > > > On 12/19/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Dec 19, 2007 9:07 AM, Rajini Sivaram <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Simon,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There shouldn't be any visible effect because of the
> classloading
> > > > > > changes
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > the Tuscany runtime (at least that was the goal). It enables
> Tuscany
> > > > > to
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > run in a multi-classloader environment including inside OSGi.
> By
> > > > > > default,
> > > > > > > Tuscany continues to run using a single CLASSPATH-based
> classloader.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Contribution classloading was also modified. As a result,
> > > > > contributions
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > longer need to be in the CLASSPATH. All import/export
> dependencies
> > > > > > across
> > > > > > > contributions should be explicitly specified (as described in
> the
> > > > > spec).
> > > > > > > Earlier, classes from contributions were loaded using the
> thread
> > > > > context
> > > > > > > classloader (typically using CLASSPATH), and import/export
> > > > statements
> > > > > > did
> > > > > > > not have any effect.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rajini
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 12/18/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 2007 1:37 PM, Simon Laws <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 2007 12:16 PM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Dec 12, 2007 10:03 AM, Simon Laws <
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 12, 2007 9:45 AM, Luciano Resende <
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Following Ant's question, after you cut the first
> RC,
> > > > > > > development
> > > > > > > > > > > > would continue on trunk or on a branch ? Based on
> the
> > > > > > timeframe
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > considering we would still work on issues on the
> week of
> > > > Jan
> > > > > > > 7th,
> > > > > > > > > > I'd
> > > > > > > > > > > > recommend continue on trunk until sometime around
> end of
> > > > > year.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 12, 2007 12:22 AM, ant elder <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think the tomcat deep integration, JMS, or
> > > > > > > distribution
> > > > > > > > > > > > structure
> > > > > > > > > > > > > changes would all be done by next week. Haven't
> seen
> > > > much
> > > > > > > > > > happening
> > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > jsonrpc references recently either. We do have all
> of
> > > > the
> > > > > > rest
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > year
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to continue development though right?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    ...ant
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 11, 2007 10:59 PM, Simon Laws <
> > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Following on from the JIRA tidy up note here are
> a few
> > > > > > high
> > > > > > > > > > level
> > > > > > > > > > > > areas
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've seen activity on over the last few weeks
> and so
> > > > may
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > ready to
> > > > > > > > > > > > go
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > release 1.1.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep tomcat integration
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Better JMS support
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > JAXB based POJO transformations.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > More policy function
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Modeling of client side java script components
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > JSONRPC reference binding
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Better support for doman API suggested by
> assembly
> > > > spec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Domain based and standalone node operation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Domain lookup for remote access to domain
> services.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Transactions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > JPA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Class loading and OSGI
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > BPEL fixes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Distribution structure changes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you fill in the detail and tell me what we
> can get
> > > > > in,
> > > > > > > > > > > i.e.addwhat is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > missing from the list, add details to what is on
> the
> > > > > list,
> > > > > > > > > > indicate
> > > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > shouldn't be on the list. Think of this as
> forming the
> > > > > > > CHANGES
> > > > > > > > > > text
> > > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > should look like [1]. Even better go and update
> the
> > > > > > CHANGES
> > > > > > > > > > doc:-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a reminder here is the timeline I'm working
> to. I'm
> > > > > > > > planning
> > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > spending
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > next week working on the first RC. Building the
> > > > > > > distribution,
> > > > > > > > > > fixing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > samples, READMES, licenses etc. The objective
> being to
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > candidate before I go away for the holidays for
> people
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > review
> > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > leisure. This means that when everyone is back
> we can
> > > > > > spend
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > week
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > beginning 7th Jan knocking it into shape until
> we get
> > > > an
> > > > > > RC
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > > vote
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following week, beginning 14th would also be
> taken
> > > > > up
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > voting
> > > > > > > > > > > > with a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > view to releasing the week beginning 21st (or
> earlier
> > > > if
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > done).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that still sound reasonable to everyone.
> Are
> > > > there
> > > > > > > pieces
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > function
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that must be in 1.1. that can't be done in this
> > > > > timescale?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Simon
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/distribution/src/main/release/CHANGES
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Luciano Resende
> > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende<http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> <
> > > > http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> > > > > <
> > > > > > http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> > > > > > > > > > <http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende><
> > > > > > > > > > > http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > If people are agreed that any work that gets
> committed to
> > > > > > trunk
> > > > > > > > over
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > Christmas holidays is related to fixing up the content
> of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > > candidate contents we finalize next week then I'm
> happy to
> > > > > keep
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > effort
> > > > > > > > > > > going on trunk with a view to cutting the branch
> including
> > > > all
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > fixes
> > > > > > > > > > > people have made when I get back on the 2nd Jan. We
> could
> > > > hope
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > "RC0" to catch 90% of the release issues and reduce
> the pain
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > little
> > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > this 90% by allowing the fixes to happen in just one
> place.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > If people have other projects in mind that take the
> trunk in
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > > > > direction then I'll take a branch next week.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Simon
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Doing it next year sounds good to me, i've no plans to
> start
> > > > on
> > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > stuff
> > > > > > > > > > not related to 1.1 over the break but i would find it
> useful
> > > > to
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > time to finish things off.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >   ...ant
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I do want to get an RC done next week (from the trunk)
> which we
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > test with and which I hope shows what we intend to release
> in
> > > > 1.1.
> > > > > > > From
> > > > > > > > > past experience we know that the first time we try to get
> it all
> > > > > > > > together
> > > > > > > > > there will be many things to fix and things to finish. I
> > > > wouldn't
> > > > > > > expect
> > > > > > > > > that to include, for example, inclusion of new modules
> that we
> > > > > > haven't
> > > > > > > > > discussed here or material changes to the structure of the
> > > > > release.
> > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > point of this being that we shouldn't be in 1.1.
> development
> > > > mode
> > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > January comes round and that we are focused on getting
> 1.1through
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > release votes with all the fixing and fiddling we know
> that
> > > > > entails.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Simon
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm planning to spend the next 3 days working on getting the
> > > > > mechanics
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the release in place for 1.1 and working on bug fixes. From
> the
> > > > > > initial
> > > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > that I postulated at the start of this and peoples
> subsequent
> > > > > replies
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > believe we can expect these pieces of work.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >   - Better JMS support
> > > > > > > >      - What level of support are we now expecting?
> > > > > > > >   - JAXB based POJO transformations.
> > > > > > > >   - More policy function including JAAS and better designed
> policy
> > > > > > > >   handlers
> > > > > > > >   - Modeling of client side java script components
> > > > > > > >   - JSONRPC reference binding
> > > > > > > >      - Can someone comment is this is actually done?
> > > > > > > >   - Better support for doman API suggested by assembly spec
> > > > > including
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >   standalone node and nodes running connected together in a
> > > > domain.
> > > > > > > >   - Class loading and OSGI improvements
> > > > > > > >   - Support for BPEL references
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please check the accuracy of this and let me know what is
> missing.
> > > > > In
> > > > > > > > particular I want more detail on what we can expect for
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > JMS - for example
> > > > > > > >   Point to point, XML messages, Callbacks?
> > > > > > > > JSONRPC references
> > > > > > > >   Is this done now?
> > > > > > > > Class loading and OSGI improvements
> > > > > > > >   What new features/behaviour will people see in the
> release?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Simon
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, thank you everyone for the updates. I'm starting to get a
> feel for
> > > > > > where
> > > > > > we are at and what to look out for. Please go and update the
> CHANGES
> > > > > file
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > trunk when you get a change. Rajini do you have your ID yet? If
> not
> > > > I'll
> > > > > > go
> > > > > > do the update.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simon
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > So based on these comments this is what is being added/excluded for
> 1.1
> > > >
> > > > Modules:
> > > > =======
> > > >
> > > > Included (Over what was included in the last release)
> > > > -------------
> > > > binding-jms
> > > > implementation-widget
> > > >
> > > > Excluded
> > > > --------------
> > > > assembly-java-dsl
> > > > databinding-fastinfoset
> > > > implementation-bpel
> > > > implementation-das
> > > > implementation-data-api
> > > > implementation-data-xml
> > > > implementation-ejb
> > > > implementation-ejb-xml
> > > > policy-transaction
> > > > runtime
> > > > runtime-tomcat
> > > > runtime-war
> > > >
> > > > Samples
> > > > ======
> > > >
> > > > Included (Over what was included in the last release)
> > > > ------------
> > > > Nothing explicitly new but Helloworld samples have been reorganized
> > > >
> > > > Excluded
> > > > --------------
> > > > helloworld-ws-deep-webapp   - need to add to exclude list
> > > > helloworld-ws-service-webapp
> > > > loanapplication
> > > > quote-xquery
> > > > spi-implementation-pojo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Simon
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Luciano Resende
> > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > http://people.apache.org/~lresende<http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> Apache Tuscany Committer
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende <http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
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> Ok, thanks Luciano. I'll respin the dependencies and see what has changed.


Simon

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