Re: [spec] @Reference versus @Property

2005-12-13 Thread Mike Edwards
James Strachan wrote: ...snip We should bring it up with the spec group. Just out of interest; is the spec group a private separate mail list? It might be worth using a tuscany mail list for public discussions of the spec. I guess we could just reuse the dev list and use a [spe

Re: [spec] @Reference versus @Property

2005-12-13 Thread Mike Edwards
James, Here is my view of the questions you have with regard to the SCA spec: James Strachan wrote: BTW I really like the SCA specification, though coming from a POJO / Spring background the distinction between @Reference and @Property seems a little surprising at first - I just wanted to de

Re: [spec] @Reference versus @Property

2005-12-13 Thread James Strachan
On 13 Dec 2005, at 19:28, Jim Marino wrote: So I also looked at http://www.jroller.com/page/habuma/20051206 Yes I think burning component names in annotations is bad. Also, likewise for specifying property values since Java has an assignment operator for that ;-). Agreed I also had a l

Re: [spec] @Reference versus @Property

2005-12-13 Thread Jim Marino
So I also looked at http://www.jroller.com/page/habuma/20051206 Yes I think burning component names in annotations is bad. Also, likewise for specifying property values since Java has an assignment operator for that ;-). I also had a look at: http://jroller.com/page/habuma?entry=spring_2

Re: [spec] @Reference versus @Property

2005-12-13 Thread David Booz
This is a good discussion, and it's getting long. I added comments inline...and snipped some text to narrow the discussion. I hope this helps. On 12/13/05, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 13 Dec 2005, at 16:46, Jim Marino wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback James! Some comments in

Re: [spec] @Reference versus @Property

2005-12-13 Thread Jim Marino
On Dec 13, 2005, at 9:58 AM, James Strachan wrote: On 13 Dec 2005, at 16:46, Jim Marino wrote: Thanks for the feedback James! Some comments inline... On Dec 13, 2005, at 6:53 AM, James Strachan wrote: BTW I really like the SCA specification, though coming from a POJO / Spring background

Re: [spec] @Reference versus @Property

2005-12-13 Thread James Strachan
On 13 Dec 2005, at 16:46, Jim Marino wrote: Thanks for the feedback James! Some comments inline... On Dec 13, 2005, at 6:53 AM, James Strachan wrote: BTW I really like the SCA specification, though coming from a POJO / Spring background the distinction between @Reference and @Property seems

Re: [spec] @Reference versus @Property

2005-12-13 Thread Jim Marino
I just thought about something else - we may be able to infer @Reference semantics if a reference is decorated with a policy or QoS. For example, if I have the following: @SomePolicy Foo fooReference The runtime should be smart enough to infer that 'fooReference' can only be a "reference"

Re: [spec] @Reference versus @Property

2005-12-13 Thread Jim Marino
Thanks for the feedback James! Some comments inline... On Dec 13, 2005, at 6:53 AM, James Strachan wrote: BTW I really like the SCA specification, though coming from a POJO / Spring background the distinction between @Reference and @Property seems a little surprising at first - I just wanted

[spec] @Reference versus @Property

2005-12-13 Thread James Strachan
BTW I really like the SCA specification, though coming from a POJO / Spring background the distinction between @Reference and @Property seems a little surprising at first - I just wanted to describe my initial confusion and see if I'm on the right track to their intended differences and how