Re: Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions)

2007-04-25 Thread Matthew Sykes
Hi, As a user and a consumer of Tuscany that has had to debug problems, I have a couple of comments. Raymond Feng wrote: It seems to me that we could use the EventManagement in the core to handle these in the event/listener pattern. If possible, I would like to see Tuscany focus on the high

Re: Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions)

2007-04-23 Thread Raymond Feng
Hi, Please see my comments inline. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: "Jean-Sebastien Delfino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions) [sn

Re: Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions)

2007-04-23 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[snip] Raymond Feng wrote: Hi, Simon. [snip] On the positive side this seems like an approach we could use that separates logging/tracing from the application code. However you still need the aspectj runtime to weave the annotation based aspects into the application classfiles right. I am att

Re: Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions)

2007-04-19 Thread Raymond Feng
Hi, Simon. [snip] On the positive side this seems like an approach we could use that separates logging/tracing from the application code. However you still need the aspectj runtime to weave the annotation based aspects into the application classfiles right. I am attracted by doing tracing with

Re: Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions)

2007-04-19 Thread Simon Laws
quot;Raymond Feng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions) > Hi, > > Please see my comments below. > > Thanks, > Raymond > > - Origin

Re: Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions)

2007-04-19 Thread ant elder
I was referring to this mail [1] when I mentioned commons logging and SLF4J. I don't know if its worth converting if you've already used LOG4J. SLF4J does have some nice features though, particularly parameterized log messages. You can read all about it at: http://www.slf4j.org. ...ant On 4/18

Re: Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions)

2007-04-18 Thread Raymond Feng
To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions) Hi, Please see my comments below. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: "ant elder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednes

Re: Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions)

2007-04-18 Thread Kevin Williams
Is SLF4J a better route than Log4j? If so, I wonder if we should convert over the RDB DAS. On 4/18/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/17/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I found our current Monitor stuff difficult to follow as well. I suggest > that we start

Re: Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions)

2007-04-18 Thread Raymond Feng
Hi, Please see my comments below. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: "ant elder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:51 AM Subject: Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions) On 4/17/07, Jean-S

Re: Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions)

2007-04-18 Thread Simon Laws
Ant Replies in line On 4/18/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/17/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I found our current Monitor stuff difficult to follow as well. I suggest > that we start a new discussion thread to discuss monitoring in general, > and try to

Monitoring, logging, and exceptions (was: Re: Notifcation of missing extensions)

2007-04-18 Thread ant elder
On 4/17/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I found our current Monitor stuff difficult to follow as well. I suggest that we start a new discussion thread to discuss monitoring in general, and try to come up with something that will be more usable and easier to adopt through