Re: [BRAINSTORM] Flexibility in distributed operation and extension implementations - was: Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-05-09 Thread Simon Laws
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Anyhow if this code is doing what I think it's doing then maybe we should move it to be a little earlier in the process and more general than the sca binding. We could take the

Re: [BRAINSTORM] Flexibility in distributed operation and extension implementations - was: Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-05-03 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Anyhow if this code is doing what I think it's doing then maybe we should move it to be a little earlier in the process and more general than the sca binding. We could take the checking code you have here and put it a little higher up where the reference targets

Re: [BRAINSTORM] Flexibility in distributed operation and extension implementations - was: Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-05-02 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Simon Laws wrote: Was just looking at the checkin. Thanks for making the fix. Now we don't generate invalid composite files when they get written out. Re. the second part dealing with URIs. It looks to me like this is picking up the case where the URI has been specified as the name of the

Re: [BRAINSTORM] Flexibility in distributed operation and extension implementations - was: Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-05-01 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Simon Laws wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Laws wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Yang Lei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Simon's emphases on

Re: [BRAINSTORM] Flexibility in distributed operation and extension implementations - was: Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-04-23 Thread Simon Laws
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Laws wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Yang Lei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Simon's emphases on the

Re: [BRAINSTORM] Flexibility in distributed operation and extension implementations - was: Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-04-22 Thread Simon Laws
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Yang Lei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Simon's emphases on the point of view. I understand Tuscany may prefer one solution over the other. However from extensibility

Re: [BRAINSTORM] Flexibility in distributed operation and extension implementations - was: Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-04-22 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Simon Laws wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Yang Lei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Simon's emphases on the point of view. I understand Tuscany may prefer one solution over the other. However from

Re: [BRAINSTORM] Flexibility in distributed operation and extension implementations - was: Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-04-21 Thread Simon Laws
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Yang Lei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Simon's emphases on the point of view. I understand Tuscany may prefer one solution over the other. However from extensibility perspective, there need some extension points to enable Tuscany adapters to overwrite

Re: [BRAINSTORM] Flexibility in distributed operation and extension implementations - was: Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-04-15 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Comments inline. Simon Laws wrote: On Sun, Feb 3, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lou Amodeo wrote: This is a request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute as a first class attribute on its associated bindings model object. This request is

Re: [BRAINSTORM] Flexibility in distributed operation and extension implementations - was: Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-04-15 Thread Simon Laws
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comments inline. Simon Laws wrote: On Sun, Feb 3, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lou Amodeo wrote: This is a request to propogate the value of a references

Re: [BRAINSTORM] Flexibility in distributed operation and extension implementations - was: Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-04-15 Thread Yang Lei
I agree with Simon's emphases on the point of view. I understand Tuscany may prefer one solution over the other. However from extensibility perspective, there need some extension points to enable Tuscany adapters to overwrite the default behavior. I think the thread discussion on reference target

[BRAINSTORM] Flexibility in distributed operation and extension implementations - was: Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-04-11 Thread Simon Laws
On Sun, Feb 3, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lou Amodeo wrote: This is a request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute as a first class attribute on its associated bindings model object. This request is based on a requirement to

Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-02-02 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Lou Amodeo wrote: This is a request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute as a first class attribute on its associated bindings model object. This request is based on a requirement to provide support to implement a late-endpoint resolution capability for service references

Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-02-01 Thread Simon Laws
Some more comments inline Lets see if I can articulate this a little better. My thinking is that taget= represents a binding independent way to resolve an endpoint. It doesnt necessarily specify the contents of the effective URI that is used to address an endpoint. +1 In the

Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-01-31 Thread Simon Nash
One question inline. Simon Simon Laws wrote: On Jan 30, 2008 8:06 PM, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (cut) The value from the reference target is currently set to the target when the reference is matched to a target service. I don't quite follow the above. Are you saying that

Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-01-31 Thread Simon Laws
snip... The value from the reference target is currently set to the target when the reference is matched to a target service. I don't quite follow the above. Are you saying that the service URI is copied into the reference binding URI at the matching stage? Is this the fully resolved

Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-01-31 Thread Lou Amodeo
Thanks for all the responses and good discussion. Lets see if I can articulate this a little better. My thinking is that taget= represents a binding independent way to resolve an endpoint. It doesnt necessarily specify the contents of the effective URI that is used to address an endpoint. In

Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-01-30 Thread Simon Nash
Simon Laws wrote: On Jan 21, 2008 6:55 PM, Lou Amodeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute as a first class attribute on its associated bindings model object. This request is based on a requirement to provide support to

Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-01-30 Thread Lou Amodeo
By deferring the endpoint resolution until the point of invocation it reduces the window of opportunity for the reference to lookup the endpoint prior to the service being started. It also always services to change endpoints (reregister) without the need for recycle the client. Getting back to

Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-01-30 Thread Simon Nash
See inline. Simon Lou Amodeo wrote: By deferring the endpoint resolution until the point of invocation it reduces the window of opportunity for the reference to lookup the endpoint prior to the service being started. It also always services to change endpoints (reregister) without the need

Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-01-30 Thread Simon Laws
On Jan 30, 2008 8:06 PM, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See inline. Simon Lou Amodeo wrote: By deferring the endpoint resolution until the point of invocation it reduces the window of opportunity for the reference to lookup the endpoint prior to the service being started. It

Re: Request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute on its associated bindings model object

2008-01-22 Thread Simon Laws
On Jan 21, 2008 6:55 PM, Lou Amodeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a request to propogate the value of a references target= attribute as a first class attribute on its associated bindings model object. This request is based on a requirement to provide support to implement a late-endpoint